Comments on: When the Watermark Tells the Story http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html France - World Cup - South Africa 2010 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:50:19 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Michel-Olivier http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144719 Michel-Olivier Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:48:53 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144719 @ metamoralia it's not a civil war but a revolution @ metamoralia
it’s not a civil war but a revolution

]]> By: jeff/433 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144699 jeff/433 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:55:31 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144699 Meta - I don't find it all that surprising. Nice quote from Coupet. The French people with whom I've spoken act as if there's unanimous disdain for the current state of the FFF; as if the FFF's shame is simply a matter of fact, rather than a matter of debate. Meta – I don’t find it all that surprising. Nice quote from Coupet.

The French people with whom I’ve spoken act as if there’s unanimous disdain for the current state of the FFF; as if the FFF’s shame is simply a matter of fact, rather than a matter of debate.

]]> By: Jean Pierre http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144697 Jean Pierre Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:21:11 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144697 Go Coupet Coupet & zidane forever Go Coupet

Coupet & zidane forever

]]> By: metamoralia http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144696 metamoralia Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:59:48 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144696 Forgive me ... ... but I'm utterly fascinated by this apparent civil war going on now between veteran players and the FFF. There's definitely a very public attempt going on to get rid of Escalettes and his cronies on the part of Trez, Frey, Pires, Zidane et al ... and today Coupet. Zidane denied any orchestration on the part of the '98 generation and I don't doubt that, but they're obviously embarrased by the current leadership/administration and would like to see the team returned to competent hands. I love Coupet's sarcastic comment, as quoted in The Guardian, "They sacked the doctor and the media guy," he said. "We were crap at Euro and that would be because of the doctor and the guy responsible for the media. That's shameful." Forgive me …

… but I’m utterly fascinated by this apparent civil war going on now between veteran players and the FFF. There’s definitely a very public attempt going on to get rid of Escalettes and his cronies on the part of Trez, Frey, Pires, Zidane et al … and today Coupet. Zidane denied any orchestration on the part of the ‘98 generation and I don’t doubt that, but they’re obviously embarrased by the current leadership/administration and would like to see the team returned to competent hands.

I love Coupet’s sarcastic comment, as quoted in The Guardian,

“They sacked the doctor and the media guy,” he said. “We were crap at Euro and that would be because of the doctor and the guy responsible for the media. That’s shameful.”

]]> By: Jean Pierre http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144695 Jean Pierre Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:51:45 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144695 ps @ jeff ty but after 3 years lessons ma english still hasnt reached the level to understand what you wrote - lolll thanks anyways:D ps @ jeff ty but after 3 years lessons ma english still hasnt reached the level to understand what you wrote – lolll thanks anyways:D

]]> By: Jean Pierre http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144693 Jean Pierre Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:47:37 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144693 Wowowow im impressed adults who do watch football do have huge brains with depth! the eyes of ma teacher are gonna roll out when i use ur piece with words like xenophobic and sublimated thanks professor meta the stuff u wrote are not good but they are totally great and wise and old and professer university stuff, it really amazed me and ty jeff im gonna score a 10 Wowowow im impressed adults who do watch football do have huge brains with depth! the eyes of ma teacher are gonna roll out when i use ur piece with words like xenophobic and sublimated
thanks professor meta the stuff u wrote are not good but they are totally great and wise and old and professer university stuff, it really amazed me and ty jeff im gonna score a 10

]]> By: Jeff/433 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144687 Jeff/433 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:17:46 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144687 JP - that's good stuff from Meta. It's beyond adult-like, it's academic, which might be what your instructor is expecting. I'm an adult, and my discussions about football usually reduce to over-using British phrases that I've recently learned and chuckling about them. You're instructor is probably expecting something different than that, although it would be a genuine representation of a native English speaker: "I can't believe it - he's shinned it! An absolute sitter and he's bottled it! My word, he's made a hash of things. What do reckon, Trevor? To be fair, it's that kind of finishing that really threatens to bring the game into disrepute." Hee,hee,hee. JP – that’s good stuff from Meta. It’s beyond adult-like, it’s academic, which might be what your instructor is expecting. I’m an adult, and my discussions about football usually reduce to over-using British phrases that I’ve recently learned and chuckling about them. You’re instructor is probably expecting something different than that, although it would be a genuine representation of a native English speaker:

“I can’t believe it – he’s shinned it! An absolute sitter and he’s bottled it! My word, he’s made a hash of things. What do reckon, Trevor? To be fair, it’s that kind of finishing that really threatens to bring the game into disrepute.” Hee,hee,hee.

]]> By: Jeff/433 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144686 Jeff/433 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:54:36 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144686 David - Thanks for that. The French National Team is an integral part of France and French culture. 60 million people - how many of those could name half a dozen players? I'd guess 20 million easy. Feel free to use this comments board to discuss anything about you'd like. I'm your man for discussions on Bordeaux wine and the culinary traditions of the Perigord. David – Thanks for that. The French National Team is an integral part of France and French culture. 60 million people – how many of those could name half a dozen players? I’d guess 20 million easy.

Feel free to use this comments board to discuss anything about you’d like. I’m your man for discussions on Bordeaux wine and the culinary traditions of the Perigord.

]]> By: metamoralia http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144680 metamoralia Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:51:27 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144680 Jean Pierre, How's this: For centuries European countries used to fight wars against each other, which culminated in two incredibly destructive world wars in the last century. They don't do that anymore. They play football against each other instead, as in the European championship. Football, like all team sports, is a relatively harmless release for male aggression and national sentiment. As spectators, we derive a vicarious pleasure from watching it, safe in the knowledge that our interest is not potentially fatal. Nor, ideally, is it racist or xenophobic. European football, then, is a kind of sublimated warfare, as seen most obviously in last summer's European championship. By "sublimated," I mean we take something unacceptable (warfare) and make it acceptable (football, the beautiful game). Professor Meta Jean Pierre,

How’s this:

For centuries European countries used to fight wars against each other, which culminated in two incredibly destructive world wars in the last century. They don’t do that anymore. They play football against each other instead, as in the European championship.

Football, like all team sports, is a relatively harmless release for male aggression and national sentiment. As spectators, we derive a vicarious pleasure from watching it, safe in the knowledge that our interest is not potentially fatal. Nor, ideally, is it racist or xenophobic.

European football, then, is a kind of sublimated warfare, as seen most obviously in last summer’s European championship. By “sublimated,” I mean we take something unacceptable (warfare) and make it acceptable (football, the beautiful game).

Professor Meta

]]> By: David Miller http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html/comment-page-1#comment-144634 David Miller Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:29:01 +0000 http://france.worldcupblog.org/euro-2008/when-the-watermark-tells-the-story.html#comment-144634 Looking for blogs about France and French culture! Nice blog. Liked it. Looking for blogs about France and French culture! Nice blog. Liked it.

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