We’ll meet again

re: Avik – you sit and spout crap on this website when your country doesnt even have a football team which will win ANY match outside its own country. If I remember correctly, there is only 1 – ONE player from india who has EVER played in a match outside his country and thats Bhaichung Bhutia.

So shut the fruck up. Although I imagine an India versus france match would be quite hilarious. I would bet on a 50-1 goal line (that 1 for india would be barthez getting really bored in the rest of the match and going to sleep so missing one) – even if you play the current team…

Ribery is the best young player to come out of the WC. A lot of clubs want him. Unfortunately, I don’t see a lot of other upcoming young French players. As to the gloating Italians on this thread….there’s only one thing worse than a sore loser…and that’s a sore winner. Knowing how to win gracefully is even more important than knowing how to lose gracefully. Get a grip. You did not trounce France on Saturday. You struggled against a fighting French team that did not give up. France made you sweat like hell to win that cup. And in the end one of your players with a history of being carded and sent off the pitch deliberately went for a provocation ploy and Zidane fell for it. It’s no wonder that so many Italian players have links with racist fascist groups (Buffon loves Mussolini, he’s publicly praised the dictator and worn pro-Mussolini t-shirts) while none of the French players are involved with any of that ugliness. You won’t be on your throne forever, you’re a testament to glorified mediocrity. And I’m not French, by the way. I just like good quality football, even when it fails. That quality football was embodied in the French team once it got out of group play. Italy never rose above the adequate.

Please don’t put Italians in the same boat. Like all nationalities they are a very small percentage that make racist comments. All the Italians I know have the upmost respect for the French team and the views of a few should not impune an entire nation. So if you have a problem with racist comments blame those who are making them and don’t accuse the innocent. I’m speaking to you Vitali, why do you take the bait? Just ignore those people.
Good Luck to France in the future.

Vitali, Fu*k your ass racist…if Massimo is a Stup*d S**t racist it doesn’t mean all the Italians are racists. We don’t think all Americans are for KKK. Racism is a little everywhere and we must fight against it without stereotypes and making differences between people.

So, every single racist bastard must shut up!!!!

Vitali,
Fu*k your ass racist!!!
…if Massimo is a Stup*d S**t racist it doesn’t mean all the Italians are racists. We don’t think all Americans are for KKK. Racism is a little everywhere and we must fight against it without stereotypes and making differences between people.

So, every single racist bastard must shut up!!!!

Why are the greasballs and canucks still in here talking sh**. Jesus you won, get over yourselves.

Hi Haarf the same is going on on the italian blog. Italian hater trolls having their spot. Too bad this could have been a nice place to talk about football.
On the september game I don’t see it as a revenge for you cos 2 generations of footballers came to an end with the final: the italian and the french. It will be a match between 2 new sides.
It has been a fine rivalry in the last 10 years, too bad it ended with that headbutt. I know Zidane is a hero in France but you shouldn’t assume Materazzi said something it is not proven he said just because you want desperately keep your faith in your hero. That’s human but not fair in my opinion.
Anyway see you in september and good luck to your renovated team (well good luck since they aren’t playing Italy )

This site should be better moderated!
I thought the purpose of it was to discuss Football in a constructive & “mature” way. Instead we get a bunch of lunatics beating their chests and talking smack.
France had their glory in ‘98. I salute their achievement. But now, it’s Italy’s time for glory. In 4 years it will be another nation.
Just drop it and move on. If you can’t do that…..well that would be pretty pathetic!

Zidane headbutted already 3 times in the past (2 when playing for juve). He’s a professional football player over 30 that SHOULD know what the game is about (good AND BAD)Unfortunately sometimes you encounter people trying to irritate you, but if you are a professional, NO MATTER what they say, you keep cool. great player, but not a great professional…
as far as the game is concerned, what goes around comes around, I think Italy deserved it, for the overall torunament. it’s a disgrace that zidane got the best player award, it makes no sense to give it to him after what he did considering that there’s been a huge number of yellow cards for bad fouls since the beginning of the tournament.
and now, most importantly, I want to enjoy OUR FOURTH CUP, too many tv-time spent for a stupid act of crazyness.take care all.

si Materazzi joue, la foule va vien s’amuser je crois …

*bien

I think that if you take away Zidane, Henry and those other black people that are too old to play, France has no chance against Italy for at least 40 years.

I think France should go recruit in Ghana again. They got good players there for France. Maybe if they scout enough African Countries they can make a team again like in 1998 and maybe win.

Re: comments of Massimo:

And there is still doubt these pasta monkeys are not racists???

Don’t let italians qualify for Euro2008. Materazzi is a scambag.

geez Massimo go back and crawl under the rock you came from. Not content with Italy winning the world cup you have to come on France’s blog and spout racist tripe? People like you are why so many jump to conclusions about the nature of Mattarazzi’s comments.

hmmn, just had a look at the euro qualifiers, France is in quite a nasty group:

France
Italy
Scotland
Faroe Islands
Lithuania
Georgia
Ukraine

top 2 to qualify, admittedly Scotland are pretty poor these days, but Ukraine is a danger, anyone know about how good Lithuania and Georgia are?

haha…

IF u french think that by beating azzurri in qualifying of Euro .. u’ll have your revenge … U r idiots ( which u apparently are ) !!!

Yes it’s true that a lot of players including zizou , makelele , viera ,gallas , thuram will b going out . havent seen too much of the bench strength to think o them as a real threat to the World champions …

and BTW nothing compares to the world cup .. if a country doesnt realize that they have no business coming for the finals

ciao

boys,

i’m non-french, non-italian, and i only know one thing. players in any game (read:mans’s game) insult and provoke. show me one game and one country that didnt do it.

its sad to go to office here everyday with the french not only justifying but also glorifying their hero. ofcourse i cant dare to say much, bcoz these guys can get rude.its sad that zidane had to end his career on such a sour note, but he did.

to make things worse they blame italy for their loss?? if they weer so good why is it that their only goal in that game was a (very foul) pk won by some good diving? and then italy managed to strike ust minutes after???

if any of u cant quite see that, its pathetic.we all facde racist comments in any part of the world at some point, this is not how we react. had any other player done that head banging vandalist act, he would be ripped apart by the world…..at least zidane has gotten away with it.

i know too many italians to say that they are racist. if someone tops the racist list its the french who had their banlieus burning just recently.

wake up guys …

Come on Avik, remind what the game was and be a little more humble. (your players stop running after the first half and the pray to succeed in keeping the score until the pk. Wow, so impressed by the world champions lol).
Indeed France will have to build a new team, this WC was the last of a very good generation (2 WC finals, one Euro finale).
Perhaps it will not be ready for the automn, so what ?
Omg, there are so stupid kids here…

To Haarf, did you forget how France win the 1998 WC quarter of final game against Italy? Did you forget how France win the 2002 Euro final game against Italy? n’est pas tojour dimanche!!! Pls accept the result as we accepted in the past. Life is a circle

All of the racist comments throughout Zidane’s whole career, both in France and abroad, have probably made him even more sensitive to racist verbal attacks from anyone… the Italian monster who provoked Zidane assuredly knew how to set him off (oh, and Mate whatever the h@ll name he has admits his kids get called sons of monsters in kindergarten in Italy, so no arguing here)…

How Zidane reacted is obviously not cool, but the racist attacks both from Frenchmen and Italians contributed to his reaction, how about focusing less on Zidane and more on the racism, to paraphrase Mos Def… “soccer is only as good as the people, so if the people won’t get better, how will the soccer get better”?

Good question.

That match will be a cracker. I am looking forward to it. This time I hope there won’t be any headbutting.

J’adores Ribery. Il a tout pour reussir. J’aurais bien aimer qu’il soit un peu plus costaud. Mais son enthusiasme est vraiment contagieux.

Do you really think Matrix cares if they boo/whistle him???

He won’t even play, he’s old now. Granted, nesta is just as old, if lippi decides to play an older central defender he’ll go with Nesta, if younger he’ll go with Barzagli.

Don’t worry about defenders, Italy is stacked with them.

As for france, good luck replacing Henry, Wiltord, Thuram, Zidane, Viera etc.. etc..

I think italy will be vastly different as well though. Totti said he will likely retire from international, as will DelPiero.

We should stop thinking of revenge against Italy…because its true we did not get the Trophy…but we didn’t lose either….like in Euro 2000 when Italy lost fair and square they needed a revenge…we don’t…

For me the most important thing is Rebuilding Les Bleus…and yes answering I beleve France has young players…they just finished semi finalist of the U 21 Euro…and lost to holland in extra time…
perhaps now that Zidane is not in the team Ludovic Giuly could be an option which is not that young but can still play…AC MILAN just signed YOANN GOURCOFF which is a promising young midfielder…

so the Zidane era is over..
Allez Ribery Era…le noveau belle epoc…

Lets trust Domenench….I beleve he can come up with a good team…

How can you let the Italians and a bunch of Indian Italian-wannabees (like Avik) send too many racist comments against France ?

I am not French, but I can tell you that a lot of people in the UK are behind France’s cause.

Come on Les Bleues ! Toast those divers and cheaters lol

It should have been 2-1 Italy but for a questionable offsides call that erased a goal.

Hahahaha!!! Can’t wait for Sept. 6th!!! France will be head-less!! By the way, start looking for replacements for Zidane, Makelele, Thuram…Replace the whole team!!

Italy won a piece of metal. The glory was taken away from the rest of the team, the fans, the nation because of racist remarks from Materazzi. Sorry guys hopefully if you win in the future it will be with honesty and without racial stains.

Hey so are we the raacist ones???
am i wrong or le penn risked to become the french president meanwhile in italy pseudoracist parties get just 1% if they are lucky! so stop to say italians are racist!! About zidane yo say materazzi said something to zidane! but it seems its zidane starting saying something to materazzi! and for what i can remeber zidane is not new in doing acts like that! i can remember World cup in 1998 or Juventus Hamburg in champions league!! so please stop with this commonplaces because in this way you will become the real racist ones!!
about the game we can say maybe italy didn’t play as well as it did in the previous game but i think we deserved that cup for what we shown in our world cup! this is football! in 98 france won at PK and i think we played better than you and then you won the world cup! the same thing i can say about euro 2000 where the first french shoot was wiltord’s goal
so please let us enjoy our cup!!
bye

Zizou cucù the cup is not for you!
Massimo and company please stop with the racist comments.
Fortunately most people in Italy are not racist.
To our French friends :
see you in september and may the best team win.
ITALIA ITALIA!!!!!
We are having party here in Rome please join us.
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS …WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS FORZA AZZURRI

All I can say is; Zidane, I can imagine how you must feel. Poor guy. You’ve got to be a person with big heart to walk away from that match.

Zidane is a disgrace to the Game,his nation,team,sons,children around the world,fans,and himself. Redemption for him is not in the CARDS. Justice is done-France lost the game. Cannavaro is more worthy of the best player award. No player is bigger than the game. Only Pele comes close to it.

Does it really matter what Materazzi said?

No!

What kind of world do we live in when we are looking for reasons to try justify physical acts of aggression on other people?

The big loser in all of this is Soccer. People are not talking about the great sport of football, they are talking about head butts and terrorist comments. What a shame. FIFA take note.

Zidane has been red carded 14 times! His violent outbursts should be no surprise to anyone.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/4731561.asp?gid=74

The history book on Zidane has been written. Zidane goes down as one of the most talented football players of all time, known for his violent outbursts and last remembered as the star French player who let his team down when it counted the most.

Zidane, goodbye and good riddance. Football will be much better off without your violent outbursts.

Zanko.

I love how UK fans hate the italians.

Even the brittish commentators can’t stand us.

Why is that?

Could it possibly be that because they feel that premier league is better than serie A they should do better at international competitions.

Well, the reason is simple. English teams are good because of foreign players, not english players.

Their team sucks.
They can’t even get an English coach.
Their players are overrated
They will never win again.

Scoreboard English Hooligan.

Italy 4 stars (and growing)

England 1 measely star (that’s it)

SIAMO I CAMPIONI DEL MONDO….SIAMO I CAMPIONI DEL MONOD…..PO-PO-PO-PO-PO-PO….PO-PO-PO-PO-PO

Translate:

WE ARE THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD, WE ARE THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLSO, PO-PO-PO-PO-PO…..PO-PO-PO-PO-PO

Zidane is a total disgrace. Stand up and be a man & take responsibility for your violent actions!! Your a scum bag!

la France ne gagnera plus jamais une coupe du monde.

L’Italie va battre la France en France.

Materazzi ne jouera pas, Nesta reprendra sa place.

Entre temps, Materazzi se tape des cocktails au bord de la piscine.

Il est champion du monde et sa carriere n’est pas terminee.

Dans la vie, il faut assumer. Aller, petit Francais, retourne a ton petit boulot. Tout est petit chez toi.

Fier d’avoir quitte la France, pays sans avenir, pays d’assistes.

My comments above were the answer to Vitali’s and Massimo’s ones but mines are posted before their comments…strange!!! something in this blog don’t run fine…

Stop Racism. racism is a little everywhere and we must fight if together…

Collabo
Au moins nous savons ce que tes parents faisaient en 44.

Andrea and Victoria no problem with your joy, you have the right to enjoy your victory

The real problem is that most of Italian fans here are racist trolls (just look above for Massimo’s, Dino’s, Neo’s etc.) which is a little boring you shall admit.
Other ones are totally biased (Dario talking about racism)

No way to have a friendly discussion here between fair supporters of every sides which was the purpose of these blogs.

Quite everything here is hatred and lack of respect. Never come in none moderated forums, it’s troll-land.

hmmm….well perhaps it is best to vent online rather than in the streets (at least i am hoping that those of us who do will leave such fumes within the confines of the keyboard). I’ve done some cyberventing myself. It is very frustrating to get your party, your team’s victory, spoiled by those who nurse sour grapes. Once all the anger is dissipated, however, we should all remember that those who open the door cannot also shut it. If you attack, expect a defense, even a counterattack. Of course the grownup thing to do, for all of us who aren’t, would be to simply congratulate the winning team, and leave the arguing to FIFA officials and the parties involved. If critique is a must, it should be positive and constructive, an objective analysis of the situation. I say this, from this impromptu pulpit I just made up, because I fear the kind of momentum all of the incendiary language present in these exchanges can perpetuate. It’s a bit sad, really. Wasn’t FIFA’s aim to foster dialogue between nations, rather than more conflict?

What can one do but look at the ink that is drying and simply shake your head.

There have been so many typical slurs and racial overtones posted on these blogs that one wonders how it did not spill out on the streets in Germany.

As I said in an earlier post it is easier to be big and brave and stupid as well when one hides behind an IP address.

Viva La France, Viva L’Italia

The governing body of World Soccer (FIFA) should be condemned for glorifying Zidane as the best player of the 2006 Wolrd Cup Finals. They have just sent a wrong message to the ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS of soccer players.

Zidane, as great a player as he was, is no role model for my children, nor will he ever be for any child who accomplishes their dream to become a world class football star.

Success is measured not only by your accomplishments, but also by how you overcome adversity. This is where FIFA blew it by chosing to ignore Zidane’s violent behavior and rewarding him instead.

Zidane, you will always be one of the greatest players to have ever played, but you have left a deep scar on the face of the greatest sport on earth.

A lifetime achievement award would have been more appropriate, but not the ‘Golden Ball’ award. Not in the 2006 World Cup Finals.

Hahahaha!!! Haarf you crack me up!!! What did I say that can be considered racist?? Is the fact that half the French team will be retiring now a racist comment??

Allez Zizou, allez Zizou, allez
Allez Zizou, allez Zizou, allez

Et 1, et 2 et 3

Que reste-t’il de nos amours?

Les feuilles mortes se ramassent a la pelle.

Voire Naples et mourir.

Morosite, chomage, pourquoi avons-nous perdu?

La consommation aurait pu etre relancee, les footballers auraient pu se taper des taupes modelles, pourquoi, pourquoi la vie est si unjuste?

Pourquoi les Italiens ont droit a la coupe du monde et pas nous?

Kakaboom, kakaboom

Merde in France

Haarf, believe me: the most part of Italians hate racism and don’t tollerate racists like Massimo & Co. So I think the most part of French people don’t like a man like Villepin or Americans the KKK.

Before all we must fight against ignorance. sometimes people confuse “racism” with “intolerance” but often they can become the same thing… and the hypocrisy starts with little things…

Marechal Nous Volia, faites feux aux Cannons ! Nom de dieux tuer mois cette rataille !

Or something along those lines.

Mais ou sont les loups des Abruzzes, la guerre est perdue, rendons nous!

CSI:Germany, or how Zidane symbolized this World Cup:
http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/wc06/wc071006.htm

Mon cher Marechal les Loups sont toujour vivants, eux il vont ce jouer des parties de Calcio contre les tombees de la Seria A.

J’ai hate a un match Juventus – Avellino !

LOL

I’ve found this at sunstar.com:

“I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned to me and talked to me, jeering,” Materazzi said a day after his denial of the terrorist comment. “He looked at me with a huge arrogance and said, ‘If you really want my shirt I’ll give it to you afterwards.’ I replied with an insult, that’s true.”

Materazzi did not say more but one report speculates that the Italy fullback retorted with a “I’d rather take the shirt off your wife.” Zidane walks ahead, turns back, two steps, lowers his goal-scoring head and wham! Materazzi is down on the pitch.

Thanks Zidane, You son of a terrorist whore…I won money on Italy and glade they won..Screw the French, Let them go cry to someone else when their week ass get invaded again..America loves Auzzurri!

Down with the FROGS!!

Sorry for the French but Sep 6th belong to the Azzurri on your on pitch…you are too old with no one to play…

Amazing how so many Americans are obsessed with hatred of the French. It’s a psychotic bigotry, a fixation. They pour all this irrational and hysterical bile and vitriol against the French, saying a lot more about their ugly and lowlife characters than anything about the French. The French get invaded? Right, I don’t see any planes being driven into the Eiffel Tower.

The main reason I cannot support the Italian team is its links with racist fascist groups. Buffon publicly proclaims his admiration of Mussolini and wears pro-Mussolini t-shirts. And check out Matterazi’s lovely racist career: http://www.edgeofsports.com/2006-07-11-193/index.html

The French team have no such links to any extremist groups.

harf didn’t wanted to be biasing! i just wanted to say that italians are not racist and that if you see at the particular every people can be judged as racist ( i didn’t mean to say frenches are racist)
you can’t judge italians for the massimo’s or neo’s comment! so please stop saying italians are racist and maphious because what happens in italy happen in mst of the country! in germany and in france too there was scandals in football, in france, in Usa and everywhere there a minorance of racism)
talking about the game i hope in september our 2 nations will play a great match ( i hope better than the final because i have to admit it wasn’t a beautiful match)!
bye

@zidainesking
it’s amazing your hate for italians… i live in italy and i think noone of the italian players are fascist! what you say has no prove and you can’t judge italians by Buffon! i told early that in france LePen got so many votes at the last elections but i don’t judge frenchmen as racist

Do you remember Zidane at the world cup of 98???? should i remind something else?? Juventus Hamburg?? remember?
please stop judging materazzi as the devil and zidane as the saint..!! this time zidane made the bad things…!

To Andrea:French people don’t like a man like Villepin or Americans the KKK.

Sorry, but could you explain the link between Villepin and KKK??
Do you think Villepin is racist??

The Italian team plays with their own countrymen unlike the French…The Americans stand up to the evil in the world while the French as always are cowards…But if someone attacked France the cowards that they are will cry raise a white flag and beg England and America for help…The French are good at 1 thing….raising a white flag!

Dario,
Zidane in 98??
Explain me. It ’s a joke, isn’t it?
The saoudiens commited a lot of fouls on him, he had a nervous act(like Beckham, totti…)And so, he had to be considered as a violent player?? Really? You think Materrazi and Zidane’s fair play in their carreers were the same??

dario, you’re assuming I’m French, I’m not. I don’t have a drop of French ancestry in me. I’m Brazilian-Italian by birth. And I never said all of Italy is racist, I said the ITALIAN TEAM has links to fascist and racist groups, with blatant plentiful pro-Mussolini support among them. There are plenty of racists and fascists in France — but among the FRENCH TEAM there are no links to such groups or any extremist ideologies.

JOHN, you continue to make an idiot of yourself.

John,
You’re a funny guy. Well done!!
When you was young and you got out your hole there were some guys who threw pebbles at you, didn’t they??

@ tierry

in my opinion nothing can justify a violent act! once said that i just wanted to say you can’t judge materazzi as you can’t judge zidane…. materadi made errors as zidane have made this time! but don’t use this to attack materazzi! the only prove we have now is that zidane ggave an head strike to materazzi… we don’t know what he said but it seems he is guilty even more than zidane! so please blameing materazzi… whatever he said you can’t give a head strike…. ( i am as roma supporteer and totti supporter but i critizised him when he spited on poulsen!)

@zidanesking

Noone of italian players is link to fascism! you should come here and get informed. footbal player are ignorant so it happened that Buffon used a fascist slogan but he neither knew what it meant… he renegaded it and say sorry to italian hebrew comunity. that’s all

thierry,

tomorrow (or whenever next) u get into the parisian metro , just look around and u will see how the non-french pity the french. its a beautiful city wch brings us to paris, but its a huge disappointment ot live among u guys. sorry for that, but its coming fm someone who thought veyr highly about u before coming to france. not any more.

boys,

i’m non-french, non-italian, and i only know one thing. players in any game (read:mans’s game) insult and provoke. show me one game and one country that didnt do it.

its sad to go to office here everyday with the french not only justifying but also glorifying their hero. ofcourse i cant dare to say much, bcoz these guys can get rude.its sad that zidane had to end his career on such a sour note, but he did.

to make things worse they blame italy for their loss?? if they weer so good why is it that their only goal in that game was a (very foul) pk won by some good diving? and then italy managed to strike ust minutes after???

if any of u cant quite see that, its pathetic.we all facde racist comments in any part of the world at some point, this is not how we react. had any other player done that head banging vandalist act, he would be ripped apart by the world…..at least zidane has gotten away with it.

i know too many italians to say that they are racist. if someone tops the racist list its the french who had their banlieus burning just recently.

wake up guys …

hi living… i am italian and i am not racist…. as is not racist the most part of french…. we should stop speaking by commonplaces and clichè.. you can’t judge someone for the place he come from!

Check out this NY Times article about how racist incidents in Italy have marred the victory celebrations: swastikas painted on Jewish cemeteries and racist insults by an Italian government official against the French team. Says it all really.

Living in France,
Mon gars exprime toi en français comprend pas trop ce que tu me reproches.

I forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/sports/soccer/11cnd-italy.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

dario,

i meant “italians are not to be generalised as racists bcoz my own experiences tell me so”
as for the french , maybe im wrong but i’ve heard a lot in these last 3 years of living here but then again i know some really cool french ppl..so i take back my words.

To Dario
So you think Zidane made an head butt without any reason a pure act of madness??

@zidaneisking
they are just a minorance… you just need a person to go to to hebrew cemetery and paint a swastika.. and you judge italians for that persons?
about the FORMER italian official he is an asshole… himself says he is padan (northern italy) and not italian ( he wants the north of italy indipendent from the rest) you should live here for having an idea! i could search in google the words racism and brazil or germany or england or wherever and you can find thousands of episode…

At sunstar.com:

“I held his shirt for a few seconds only, then he turned to me and talked to me, jeering,” Materazzi said a day after his denial of the terrorist comment. “He looked at me with a huge arrogance and said, ‘If you really want my shirt I’ll give it to you afterwards.’ I replied with an insult, that’s true.”
Materazzi did not say more but one report speculates that the Italy fullback retorted with a “I’d rather take the shirt off your wife.” Zidane walks ahead, turns back, two steps, lowers his goal-scoring head and wham! Materazzi is down on the pitch.

tierry
i don’t know what they said
i just saw zidane hitting materazzi …. from the visdeo they were talking before that but we don’t know what they say… you can’t tell materazzi said something racist…. maybe he said bad things to zidane ( and maybe zidane too)( i think nothing racist) but if anyone should hit the opposite player for every bad word he says all the matches would become boxe matches.. don’t you agree?

Bon et voile nous y sommes de nouveaux. Moi je prefere la France de la baguette, d’un Paris Brest, d’une Religieuse, d’un shot of Marie Brizzard.

Devons nous toujour rejoindre le point ont l’ont veux ce prendre a coups de tetes.

Allez soyer les plus grands et allons voir Septembre.

Hey guys, get a grip!

Most of you are off topic!

For any racist incident in France you can find one in Italy, for any spitting of Materazzi you’ll find one of Barthez… It goes nowhere!

It was just a pityful episode. I find ridicoulus that somebody can think one was correct in that.

Since ever, everytime a player responds with violence to a provocation he gets a red card.

I do not see why this case should have been different.

Let’s hope the next time will be better.

i agree you ciao!!!
that’s what i meant but i think you found better words….

and tierry about zidane i am a big estimator of zidane.. i love good player like zidane totti, henry, beckham and RONALDINHO (my fav)….
they sometimes make stupid things but maybe you must be a littlee crazy to be a good player..

dario,

i agree with u.

this is not boxing and neither is it a rock group. men will be men and its only takes a real one to face one.

cheers.

thierry,

je ne suis pas français et meme si je pourrais ecrire dans votre langue la plupart(voir: presque tous) des gens sur ce site ne comprennent pas lefrançais. je pense que tu comprends l’anglais. if not make a little effort, it won’t hurt u

To Dario:
I just want to know your own belief: Did you really think Zidane made it without reasons? Or did you think it may be a Matterrazi’s trik? Headbutt red ok but for the last of Zidane think Italia could win without this kind of fair play.

You guys STILL DON’T GET IT!!! I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ITALIAN TEAM V. THE FRENCH TEAM, NOT THE ENTIRE ITALIAN NATION AND THE ENTIRE FRENCH NATION!!

will you idiots learn to READ already?!?!

No kidding there’s racismt in France, gee really? Wow, what a revelation! I am talking about the well documented (by the italian press!!) racist and fascist beliefs of the ITALIAN TEAM as opposed to the FRENCH TEAM!!!

GET IT STRAIGHT!

To Living in France:
Certaines subtilités m’échappent. Mais tu crois que je suis raciste ou quelque chose ds le même ton??

thierry,

in reply to ur question to dario:

yes, as a football fan, if you were better why didnt ur team score in the match at all? not even one “normal goal”? u got the same penalty kick as u got against portugal, by your own definition of “fair play” ie diving and faking. then italy scored minutes after. if u were so good, u should have scored! u got about 100 minutes between ur penalty kick and zidane’s red card.

any logical answers? im ready to hear u out….

Thierry

Probably materazzi insulted zidane…. but i think in every match there are 231 insults… should they headbutt everytime? i think i saw makelele saying a bad thing, but noone head butt him… should we say something about the mime of domenech? noone headbutted him…
f ayone should headbutt for every insult each match would become a boxe match!

@zidaneisking

what you wrote has nothinf to do with national team..it isjust the act of ONE idiot!!!

thierry,

non j’ai jamais dis que t’était racist. c’est fatigant de vous voir tous comme ça “passing the buck” à un autre jouer ou un autre pays. c’est triste car j’aime ton pays mais pas votre attitude. tu pense vraiment que c’est justifié ce que zidane a fait??? tu sais bien que tout le monde insult dans ces match . il ya rien de nouveau dans tous ça. si u italien ou un bresilien avait fait ça, vous lui pardonnerez avec le meme enthousiasme? je m’en doute…

I’m so proud of the italy team woooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooo, We’re world champions it doesn’t get any better than that! =)………………….Nobody should hate on any team because who ever wins is the one who deserves the glory. Everyone stop talking negative, be optimistic and believe in God and thats how you get Righteousness. Its a beautiful thing to win the world cup because you earn prestige for your country. Forza azzuri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=)(****).. booo hoooo france!=(

thierry,

j’ajoute que c’est meme pas une question de pardonner zidane. peut etre il est si grand un hero pour vous, que ça se justifie. mais je vous demande de ne pas blamer materazzi pour ça……je ne suis pas italienne et pourtant je te demnde. demain si un gattuso fera ça (coup de tete) à je sais pa quel jouer français tu diras la meme chose???

Living in France
The personn with mysterious nationality
Si tu n’aimes ce que tu penses être”notre attitude” alors tu aimes quoi les arbres français?? Je ne suis pas le représentant de “ton mal français” et si tu penses qu’il y a des pays parfaits ok, quand bien même tu dirais vrai qu’y puis je? J’ai le droit d’aimer Zidane le foot et de penser que l’on pointe du doigts les créateurs qd ils craquent(Totti, maradona..) alors qu’on tolèrent des gars dont on sait pertinement qu’ils sont des bouchers. Le fait que Zidane soit français n’est à mon sens pas tout à fait étranger à ce retentissement, on ne voit pas tant de vidéos de l’expulsion de Rooney. Les gens se plaisent à nous cracher dessus, bien. Tu peux m’indiquer ton pays parfait et ta nationalité, je ne te cracherais pas dessus.
P.S: Il ne t’est jamais venu à l’idée que ce qui faisait un peu la France c’était un peu la mentalité des français, en mal comme en bien.

bon, t’as dit toi meme que c’est une question de qui tu support..et non pas de fair play donc. j’aime zidane moi meme mais je sais faire la difference dans son attaque. autant de jouer se sont fait insulter et ont insulter (français, italiens, bresiliens, peu importe la nationalité) mais on ne réagi pas comme ça. c’était brutale et moche.

merci et bonne nuit, thierry.

Goodnight!

Forza azzurri

good night guys…time to hit the sack….

peace.

Good night and thanks Living in France(with a such nickname how would find friends in France)lol

Hey French fans..get down from your moral high ground…you’d make us believe your team reflects your society. It clearly doesnt.

CBC News online reports:

Media accounts of the riots that spread across France in the fall of 2005 lay the blame squarely on a racist society that has marginalized the children and grandchildren of North African immigrants.

My god how you French cry, you lost live with it..Zidane cost you the cup, He cant take some name calling???

BYE BYE FRENCHIES!!!!

Good luck Frnce
and i was Encourage Germany but I LOVE ZIDANE
God bless Zidane

For everyone who thinks Italy sucks, I’ll tell you that they don’t. Who believes that Italy’s 7 game undefeated streak, doesn’t deserve the cup, must be insane. This is why they should have won:

1) Italy’s defense scored, and you guys are jealous that your team’s defense couldn’t do that. We have the best defense in the league. Every time France got into the box, there would be 2 white shirts and 8 blue. Don’t blame the defense; France had no attackers.

2) If Italy dived, they would have called it, but they didn’t. Comment that “Italy are divers” = Prejudice. Whatever scandal happened within the country, had nothing to do with World Cup 2006, because that is nationally, not inter-national. Comment that, “They paid the ref off” = very racist.

3) Sure maybe Matterazzi said something to Zidane, but Zidane should have calmed down. He deserved that red card, just like Figo should have, in his match. It would have been a greater scandal if Zidane had not been sent off…

4) Buffon was the best goalie of the tournament, that’s why he got the goalie trophy.

5) With the scandal going on, they came to the World Cup, to prove not that they are innocent, but to prove they can win a world cup without cheating. So, whatever happened in the matches is not Italy’s fault, but the ref’s for not calling stuff during the games.

6) Remember that France played a draw against both Switzerland and Korea. The only reason USA tied was own goal by Italy; otherwise, USA wouldn’t have even gotten a point. I call that lucky for USA. And don’t get me started with Australia. Australia played well, and deserved to win, but so did Italy. Don’t blame Italy for that controversial call, but blame the ref instead.

7) Wow, all I’ve read is plenty of rubbish from non-Italian supporters. If Italy are the worst team to have won world cup, then how bad are the teams who didn’t win it? That’s because Italy have been the best team this tournament.

Facts

1) Half of the French players play in Italy, and they were involved in scandal too. So don’t blame Italy, you have to blame everyone involved. Including other players on other teams and the GM’s of each team involved. In that case, France didn’t deserve to be there also.

2) Just because the scandal happened in Italy, doesn’t mean it has anything to do with the ways refs made their calls. Calls were based on how they played, and France was rougher.

3) Fifa made the refs call pretty much everything. Then after the Portugal game, which was the worst of the match, Fifa complained about how many cards were given, and that the refs needed to calm down. So its Fifa’s fault in the end, how the outcome came. Cause it would have been a better game if Fifa let the refs just do their job.

4) People’s points are based on an assumption that Matterazzi made a racist comment. a) You have no proof whatsoever that it is true and b) even if it’s true, how that makes ITALY the worst team, I have no clue.

5) There was no video checking at the game. FIFA made that clear. The fourth official alerted the ref, but he has no video access. The 5th official has access to video but not to ref or fourth ref, and he never spoke to either of them.

6) Also, this is not the first time Zidane has done something like this in a World Cup. In 1998, during France’s second match of the first round, he received a red card and a two-game suspension in a 4-0 win over Saudi Arabia for stomping on Saudi Arabia’s team captain Fuad Amin for no apparent reason. Reports from people close to Zidane state that Amin had provoked him verbally. Sound’s familiar? An this is not the first time Zidane has done something like this in a World Cup. In 1998, during France’s second match of the first round, he received a red card and a two-game suspension in a 4-0 win over Saudi Arabia for stomping on Saudi Arabia’s team captain Fuad Amin for no apparent reason. Reports from people close to Zidane state that Amin had provoked him verbally. Sound’s familiar? An “outstanding player” should not only be judged on his football skills, but also on his mental capacity to control his temper and to think of his team before himself.

I really don’t get what this discussion is about .

1) Italy deserve the World Cup trophy . They won fair and square with a good defense . And they scored the tie and France could not score despite some good chances . But also Italy hit the crossbar .

2) France played beautiful soccer and they would have equally deserved to win . France are in a league of their own in terms of style and skill .

3) Zidane made a mistake and he’s a hot-tempered guy . Big deal ; seen that before haven’t we . And can there be any doubt that Italians are the masters at bullying ? So equal blame to go around .

Are you people all insane ? Don’t you have any other concerns to deal with ? These forums are clear example what is wrong with the world . Paranoia and hatred is a bad cocktail .

What are the French going to do without their imigrants and the son of a terrorist whore Zidane in the 2008 Euro cup??

Lose thats what, I hope the Italian fans throw some bananna’s on the field and start a riot….

The French are a bunch of losers and cowards.

Was it Materazzi who tried to give someone a heart attack?

It is the Italians who should seek revenge for such a dirty play.

It was amazing that the Italians held back without wanting to tear Zizou’s head from his body.

JOHN

You are so stupid…U KNO DAT?!?!? Try sayin that to sumone’s face, u’ll hav a nice pair of black eyes alrite! I see you are posting from the US. Guess what??? You americans are the biggest TERRORISTS I’ve ever seen and heard about. The French are a bunch of losers and cowards huh??? Remind me again who did the verbal abuse. You stupid dog, you better reply back to me. Dunt try to get smart. Meet u bak here u COWARD.

comment on dit ‘troll’ en francais? il y en a trop ici

Italians racist trolls??? what a joke!!!!! whats that racist right wing politician in France that crapped on about the lack of white french in the team????

To nicko
we said “troll” if necessary we said”Le Pen” but it could bring some legal proceedings’troubles.lol

Forza azzurri

The Cup is home where it belongs…in Italy

For all you Italy bashers…..grow some balls…fly down to Italy and express your thoughts the team in person.

To Pat
Pat isn’t an italian name, is it??

We’ll meet again and we’ll beat you again…ha haaa

troll = someone who jumps on a forum writing random crap and insulting people. There are no more or less italian trolls than from any other nation, but in this particular topic JOHN is a good example.

test- is this thing working? Just posted a whole paragraph or two but don’t see them

To nicko
John is a good guy, he remind me of my former dog, hope he doesn’t bite.

oh well, i had this whole meaningful kickass couple of paragraphs, but they didn’t post, and now i can’t remember what the hell i said. Anyway the jist of it was (getting tired so forgive the grammar): 1)It’s ok to vent, i did it too, but then reason must take over rage 2) hopefully such rage will remain on the keboard rather than spilling onto the streets 3) FIFA’a aim was to unite, not to divide 4) moral: let’s all get along, after we’re done dissing each other. Ok this came out pretty horrible (at least to my personal writng standards), but you get the point.

anyhow, back on the upcoming qualifier, it will certainly be interesting to see how the new French team does, Thuram seems tempted to play on, I hope he does, I just really hope France qualifies with a few more goals and wins than they got in their WC qualifiers! (oh and beats italy )

Zidane team-mate is ashamed of him..I like the fact that this guy spoke up and told the truth.Zidane’s 1998 World Cup winning team-mate Frank Leboeuf was also unable to defend the France captain’s head-butt.

“I cannot accept what he did,” the former Chelsea defender told BBC Radio Five Live.

“I think Materazzi said something very bad to him for him to react like that.

“But it doesn’t matter what he said – you cannot agree with what he did. I feel very ashamed – because it is not the kind of thing that this team does.

“He has a hot temper; he can react, as we have seen two or three times in his career

That is one classy Frenchman, who know that idiot cost his team the game…Hey German pride, to you I say Zieg Hail! I love it when a hun nazi speaks his mind instead of being brain washed by his goverment.

Come on Italy!
Forza azzurri!

john, see you on fu*kfrance.com…

John we can all search the internet and come up with quotes, I notice you do not place any quoted from Materazzis team mates at Everton. The fact that he was also send off 3 times in 27 matches for Everton and he was only there 98/99, that he was suspended for 2 month for punching Bruno Cirillo in a Series A match. This is not what it is about. It is about Zidane being punished for attacking Materazzi which cannot be condoned and the supposed racial abusive remarks that Materazzi made. If these are correct then both need to be punished severly, Zidane in the pocket and Materazzi FIFA will decide.

Zidane will speak in the french TV these evening at 8 pm.
Untill that time stop to speak about things nobody knows exept Zidane and Materazzi. And the investigations of papers as the Sun are rarly relevent. wait and see my friends.
that’s been said:
WELL done Italy, you did a good tournament and you have a REAL team, I mean a real tactic scheme (not like england or brazil).
I am fan of the french team and all of their players but I have to say that Zambrotta (my favourite), Canavaro, Bufon, Pirlo are really good. I was desapointed that Nesta was not on the pitch ’cause is a real classy player. Instead of him their was that Materazzi (I don’t like him for a long time, before what happened with Zizou).
See you in september with Thuram and some other.

Peace and ZIDANE 4 EVER

john, ur country is the fuking terrorist. DIE america

Jane,
I don’t think it is really usefull to speak or answer to John since is 10 years old, or/and a racist or/and a french basher or/and a sad lonly people trying to be someone in the web (we could say a “cyber life”).
Peace to home of you and may god forgive some people here.

Peace to all of you

Clement ok get your point, peaceful life and happiness to you also God Bless you and France. Blessings also to Malika and hopefully she will recover soon.

Clement please can you tell me the name of the French TV channel that Zidane will speak on. I must try and watch perhaps I can pick it up on the internet.
I know this man will speak the truth and from the heart. Yes I know he will be ashamed of what he has done. However he has honoured his sick mother (no excuse for the head butt) but his heart is in the right place. When my sons grow up I hope they would honour me also.(Maybe not in the same way but respect is shown in many different ways)

The Final shouldn’t have gone to PKs. France’s goal came courtesy of a dive which lead to a PK; Italy’s 2nd goal was legitimate as it was scored by a player onside while the offisde player was merely passively offside. These types of goals usually stand. So Italy should have won at the very least 2-1. In the end the right team won. French fans can take solace in the fact that France didn’t “lose” the game outright but that comfort is nothing but hollow and desperate. Zidane didn’t cost France the cup. Trezeguet still would have taken a PK and missed, and maybe even Zidane would have missed. The so-called rematch in September won’t have the same meaning as the Final did, at least not for Italy. The Italians will still probably be hung over by then. It’s just 1 game in Euro qualifying and both France and Italy should qualify from their group. And for anyone criticizing Materazzi, blaming him for “porvoking” Zidane. Wait until everything comes out before passing judgement, if it ever does. Zidane has a history of violence on the field.

Canal+ is the channel that ZZ will be on, not sure what the program is, but Canal+ is a pay channel, so I guess it won’t be put directly on the web until some nice viewer does it

Regardless of the results, I think that Materazzi has really put a blemish on the reputation of Italians. As someone who normally doesn’t follow soccer all that closely, all I took away from this situation was what a slimy guy Materazzi is.

Zidane is generally even-keeled and demonstrates a quiet competence. France can be proud of that.

Materazzi comes off as a street thug who might otherwise be thinking about stealing the wallets of American tourists in Rome. He’s only reinforced what a lot of people think of Italians.

At 8pm the channel is not crypted and can be seen by everybody

Zidane will remain in the annals of soccer history as one of the greatest players ever.

Materazzi will be there – if at all – as an ignominious footnote.

Compliments from Germany to the great French team !

Nicko & Haarf, thank you for the information, I have sky so hopefully might pick it up.

Canal+ is a pay chanel but not between 6:30 and 8:30 pm, that’s mean that at 8 pm in local time you will see zidane without having to pay anything. You will see him crying and excuse himself for the kids all over the world, for his team mates, for the french people but not for Materazzi. I am sure about that. 8 pm on canal+ in clear

Clement thank you.
This is not the first time Materazzi has been head butted it happened in the quarter finals between Inter and AC Milan last April the culprit was A.Shevchenko who actually got away with it. Which is a pity because that sort of behaviour on the pitch can not go unpunished.

lol-i-pop

Yeah, Matarazzi will be in the footnotes of history.

What do you want from the guy???

He is the replacement central defender to alessandro nesta!

He came into this world cup (when no one expected him to play, and cringed when he got in because we know what a liability he can be).

He scored 2 of the HUGEST goals in Italian soccer history (most of all the goal which tied the french in the world cup final) and got the best player on the other team ejected.

Not to mention he drilled home a penalty in the biggest pressure situation in all of sports.

But you’re probably right, I’m sure all of italy (and the millions of italians all over the world like myself) will soon forget what he did for the national team.

By the way, where will Klose go down in the history of football?

yes Jane I saw in live the derby between milan ac and Inter. MATERofNAZI played very bad and acted like a real butcher.
As a lot of people in europe (specially in Italy) respect Zidane I am sure that the next MATERofNAZI’s game in itlay and europe will be hard for him thanks to the audiance.

Zidane will go down in history books of YES he will….remembered for:

- his vicious head-but
- his 14(!) red cards
- his violent outbursts of rage.

Nice record Zizou, people won’t even remember you won a World Cup in 1998.

What shameful thing to do, Zizou
banf that head on the wall of your loo

Maybe you be able to flush out
that pent-up hatred that sent you out

that red card simply is not enough
for an action so vicious & rough

you deserve a hefty 10 match ban
you should admit it…if you’re a man

you gave out an example so poor
by butting that man onto the floor

a vicious attack, there’s no doubt
your reputation is over & out.

Be man & make an apology
or your character gets a eulogy

make a stand against violence on the pitch
it doesn’t matter if you’re famous or rich

you must be very poor in heart
to turn violence into your art

your 14 red cards are a shame
you have only yourself to blame!

****
4 stars, Zizou, count them p)

We love you Zidane and you should be proud of yourself because you’re a hero.We understand that you’ve your personal reason for what you had done and be sure that we love you more than before.
God bless you and don’t listen to those people who feel jealous and hate you.

Zizoooo

@Clement & Jane, but why you continue to talk about Materazzi by just speculating about what he said? Is it for you normal the reaction of ZZ? I never saw such type of reaction (very dangerous indeed)? Whatever Materazzi could have said to ZZ does not justify the reaction at all. Materazzi as all italians has big shoulders and be sure he is not afraid to play next game whenever in Euope on the contrary this will be a huge motivation for him. France is a team and people of bad loosers and their coach has been a very good example before. during and after the match. MONNALISA BACK TO ITALY!!!

Azzuro,
I am the first one to congratulate Italian people and the italian footballers, just check the posts I sent before.
Plus, and I repeat it again, the red card, video or not, is 110% justified.
But (one more time) with all my respect to the Italian nation and football i am sure the game would have been more gracefull to watch if Nesta was on the pitch instead of that dirty player (and i mean it, for o long time now) called Materazzi and you know what i am talking about. I think i balanced enough my comment.

Joseph from malta,
you will get what you want soon since Zidane will apologie this evening on the french tv at 8 pm local time (7 pm GMT). It will be broadcasted on CANAL+ chanel. After the game I would have payed to know what Materazzi said but now I just want zidane apologie to his team mates, his fans, his family (specialy his 4 children) and the children all around the world.
I defenitly believe that we will gorget his last “header” and the mgician skills will prevail after this.
Ask to english people what they think about Cantona 10 years after his flying kung fu kick. And how come Maradonna is still considered as one of the 2 best football player ever since he “stoll the 1986 1/4 final vs england with the “hand of god”, plus mafia relationship and cocain addicted??? They are heros and Idol but not Gods and icone as they are just men with good and bad sides. Like all of us.
ZIZOU 4 EVER

Oh joseph from malta made a song of zidane. You seem to be take the story with all your heart. But the reality is your lyrics reflect what you would like people will remember about zizou but not what they really think. But I have to say that you made the effort to write lyrics even they worth not much.

ZZ violent act is fact.Comments made by Materazi are pure speculation. It amazes me how many people condem Materazi ( based on what?) and defend ZZ.
Emotions are exagerated in such a high pressure situation as a WC final. It follows that ZZ reaction is also exaggerated. I prefer to judge on fact not fiction.Only 2 men know exactly what was said the rest of the world are just speculating to satisfy their own agenda..

JOHN and all other France HATERS
You all need to PRENDERE UNA VITA. John I see that you toned down a bit…tryin to sound impressive huh? From your language (see u dropped the foul words) you are either very young or extremely psychologically under. It is plain to see that you are just a part-time football fan. You’re a loser who likes to put-down others from miles away because you cannot do it in their face. It’s time for you to move on. Are you even italian? You’re a disgrace.

eww why does it say posted from the states?!???! dis is posted from canada!

An entire nation won’t be sleeping for months…much too scared

Clement from France:

do you realise what aracist pig you are when you say, & I quote you:
“i am sure the game would have been more gracefull to watch if Nesta was on the pitch instead of that dirty player (and i mean it, for o long time now) called Materazzi and you know what i am talking about. I think i balanced enough my comment.”

No Clement: that is not balanced, it’s RACIST.

RACISM is racism, no matter if the colour of the skin is black, white ot yellow.

Imagine the uprooar or furore, if someone had said something similar about Abidal, or Makele. I took YOUR OWN words, & simplt changed the names; so you may see how ugly & racist your comment was:

“i am sure the game would have been more gracefull to watch if Candela was on the pitch instead of that dirty player (and i mean it, for o long time now) called Abidal and you know what i am talking about.”

See how ugly & RACIST your comment is?

@ John…..
you are a little weak minded pathetic punk…..you are clueless about (what the rest of the world calls) football…maybe it’s because you haven’t graduated high school….JOHN please stay in school… do the right thing…
education will make you a better man…….learn about history and Lafayette..educate yourself about diplomacy….no…. it doesn’t mean “get a diploma”

@ little boy JOHN…who blew…
this cyber thing make you a big boy….you can write your trash without fear…….the fact is ..if you said it to my face..
you would receive what I call a “coup de boule Gaulois”
…believe me …..
AFTER…YOU’LL WANT TO BE MY BUDDY

Je ne suis pas francaise, mais je voudrais pratiquer mon francais un peu. J’ai seize ans, soyez ainsi gentils!!

Héros ne peuvent pas toujours être héroïques. Comme le temps passe, nous nous rappellerons Zidane pour son football gracieux, pas le coup de tete. Un moment de folie ne replace pas un carriere de grace. C’est comme la scandale de Maradonna et “La Main de Dieu.” Si tu vraiment comprends et tu aimes de football, tu ne connais pas Maradonna pour ce moment. Tu le connais pour son l’autre but dans la même match. Nous tous étions choqués par la carte rouge. Mais à moi, Zidane est encore noble et grand.

Si les gens francais a des suggestions pour améliorer mon français, les dites a moi, s’il vous plait! J’apprécierais n’importe quelle aide ou conseil.

WE’LL MEET AGAIN AND
YOU’LL BE CRUSHED AGAIN !!

BE PREPARED YOU FRENCH PRICKS

Champion
1934 Italy
1938 Italy
1982 Italy
2006 Italy
Runner-Up
1970
1994
3rd Place
1990
4rd Place
1978

6 times in final
8 times in semifinal

Italy the most successful European country in World Cup history

no comment just read

Zidane’s team-mate is ashamed of what the son of a terrorist whore did…At least there is one Frenchman with class..
At least one French player had the guts to say the truth..

Zidane’s 1998 World Cup winning team-mate Frank Leboeuf was also unable to defend the France captain’s head-butt.

“I cannot accept what he did,” the former Chelsea defender told BBC Radio Five Live.

“I think Materazzi said something very bad to him for him to react like that.

“But it doesn’t matter what he said – you cannot agree with what he did. I feel very ashamed – because it is not the kind of thing that this team does.

“He has a hot temper; he can react, as we have seen two or three times in his career

I see the Frogs are still crying in the streets…I wish our American team plays them because we’d kick their ass…

All you French know how to do is raise a white flag when your country gets invaded by the Germans….Bunch of losers!

To all of you.
I am sick, yes I am sick of all the excuses and speculations about ZZ header. He made a big mistake, and I am not forgiving him for that ! It was unacceptable, no excuse. period.
Now he is going to apologize – is he? – not on national tv, but on a paid-per-view kind of TV channel, who probably paid him top Euros to have him tonight.
The french team might have won (yeah, I know, I am speculating now!) if ZZ had not lost his f..cking temper. They were on top, still 10 mins to play, Buffon just had miraculousy saved one of the best header of the WC just 5 min before ZZ eviction… I truly think they would have made it…and the stupid coach made a f..cking stupid decision by replacing Henry and Ribery,he should have thought of the PK shootout before putting in cold feet Trezeguet.
If every player would (re)act like ZZ, where are we going ?
He doesn’t deserved the golden player award, FIFA should strip him of it !
We lost, Italy won, Congratulations to the Azzuri !
And sincerely, I don’t think France will win the 6 september game against Italy, and as a matter of fact, I don’t think France will make it to a WC final in very long time! Like 20 years…
Cheers,

You can not justify his actions.
If we justify his actions then we should justify using out fists every time someone calls us a name or cuts us off while driving.

Why don’t we go ahead and justify a rape by saying “well, did you see how she was dressed?”

Give me a break!!!

We solve problems with words, people. that is what separates us from beasts.

Also, if Buffon likes MUSSOLINI, that’s his thing!

MUSSOLINI did do a lot of good things for Itay. Before Mussolini there was hardly ANY Education for most parts of italy.

It’s all about perception, and what is important to you. I, think he had his good qualities, and bad.

People are complex, so let’s try not to generalize everyone — especially not an entire culture by the actions of one person.

France played a good game. ITaly played a good game, but not as good as they had been playing…. STILL, ITALY WON. ok?

making one penalty kick goal, and then not another goal for the entire game does not classify winner in my book.

You win by scoring goals, that’s it.

France didn’t score ‘em! period!

Let italy rejoice in peace, and stop dwelling on the past! You dwellers, will only harm the future of the game in your country.

CIAO!

I think italy doesn’t have problem to play in a warmer stadiim becouse in this conditions it plays better matches. I went to Velodrom to watch Marseille Lazio and I don’t think it is a warm stadium, you can’t compare with Napoli, Roma and Palermo. Go to watch a match in Napoli and you will see the hell

I want to tell you that France can win 5 0 the 6 of September what you will be disappointed becouse the most important match was won by Italy. Italy got the revenge with interests, the european cup is nothing compare with the world cup….
sorry french you have lost and….
bye bye Zidane go home

Zidane is guilty becouse he started to insult so He wasn’t provoked. He is coward to do that, it is a sh… the real french player is Platini,Deschamps who had always had a good behaviour in the pitch.
I don’t like that French make him a martyr.
I want to replay to French people who said italians are racist…. do you remember what happened in France some months ago?
Were they black people who claimed a better life and the same opportunities?
Please look at in your house before attacking another country.

I really don’t understand why French people are so upset. OK, they didn’t win, they ranked second in the world cup. Is that such a bad result? Germany and Portugal ended up 3rd and 4th and rightfully they are very proud of it. So, what is it? The second place? Loosing by the Italians? Someone please explain.

the ones who are Zidane’s fans plz add me to their messenger: trek_s@hotmail.com I would like to make a homepage for him!

What about mavouba’s dive?
What about Desailly elbow against Cannavato in 2000?
That time the referee didn’t watch it but Sunday night yes.
French learn to lose even if you should be used to losing.

Here we go:

Alors que la polémique va grandissant depuis la fin du Mondial, il a accepté de s’expliquer. Pourquoi avoir donné un coup de tête en pleine poitrine de l’Italien Materrazzi, en pleine finale de la Coupe du Monde ? Que lui a dit le joueur italien ? “C’est plus que des paroles. Quelquefois, il y a des paroles qui sont plus dures que certains gestes. J’aurais préféré me prendre un coup de poing qu’entendre ça”, a expliqué Zinédine Zidane mercredi soir sur TF1.

“Donc forcément, ma réaction… Je ne suis pas là pour vous dire que c’est une réaction digne, je ne peux pas dire que c’est quelque chose de bien… Mais pour avoir une réaction, il faut une provocation. Je veux simplement dire que quand on attaque votre mère, votre soeur… Quand on vous le dit plusieurs fois, que vous vous détournez pour ne pas l’entendre… Deux fois, trois fois… Au bout de la troisième fois…”

Sur les propos du joueur italien, Zinédine Zidane a refusé d’en dire plus. Il a surtout tenu, mercredi soir, à expliquer son geste, sans chercher à l’excuser. “Surtout, ce geste a été vu par beaucoup de monde”, a-t-il poursuivi, en faisant amende honorable : “Je m’excuse au niveau de tous les enfants. Il y a des millions d’enfants qui ont regardé cela. C’est un geste à ne pas faire. J’ai des enfants aussi. Je m’excuse aussi auprès des éducateurs qui sont là pour éduquer ces enfants et leur montrer les choses à faire et à ne pas faire. Je ne suis pas fier de ce geste, mais en même temps, je ne le regrette pas. Car si je regrettais mon geste, cela signifierait que je donne raison à ce qui a été dit.”

I just read that Italy might have to give the cup back.
If it can be proven that Materazzi made some racial comments, based on the new policy against racism in the FIFA, the winning team can be disqualified.

Now, all the lawyers need is a smoking gun.

And I am sure that the FIFA is going to receive a lot of amateur video shots from people that were actually in the stadium.

Note that if Italy is disqualified, nobody wins.

Mikael …. dream dream … The cup is italian.. CAMPIONI DEL MONDO…

Materazzi italian hero

Oh my! You sure about that Mikael?

Hey joseph, cool down, you talk nonsense.

Racist about what. Is materazzi from a different race than Nesta? No
Plus
Am I from a different race than Materazzi and Nesta? Not sure
So what are you talking about?
My purpose was clear but it’s seems like there is a heat wave in Malta, so have a glas of cold water and let me repeat it again: I just prefer the way Nesta play rather than Materazzi…I thought it was simple to understand.
Funny is the way you think

Italy should give up the cup.
They do not deserve it.
Nor does France.
Give it to Germany for their beautiful soccer and the great job as a host.

By the way, I’m Italian.

Oh guess what Joseph? I am white

Yes Yep!
You can read yourself the policy on the FIFA website.
It’s under article 55.

FIFA has changed some rules in March 2006 to make severe punishment against racism in the World Cup.

Now, that doesn’t mean that it is going to happen (that Italy gets disqualified), but technically, it could.

http://access.fifa.com/fr/article/0,4151,116249,00.html

Do we all remember Napoleon for Waterloo aka La Bataille du Mont Saint Jean?

Well it is probably the more prominent memory, Zidane should never have done that albeit I agree that Materazzi is no angel.

Either way France and Italy share a border, perhaps we could exchange Croissants for Tiramisu instead of volley of nuclear missiles.

But Zidane’s mom making those ridiculous comments, what else can you do but laugh.

Angelo: your grandma is ugly.
Or is that your girlfriend?

Italy won the cup and the team deserved it.
Nice tournament from both team and the best one in the penalty kick won the cup. Clear and fair.
But Materazzi seems to act and talk like a turd somtime.

I just saw the apologie of Zidane and it was brodcasted in a chanel that everybody can watch.

See you soon.

It is absolutly false that Zidane’s mum gave an interview.
She said nothing at all, just avoid the sun and some other dirt papers

Zinédine Zidane walks off into the sunset in disgrace, a fallen hero, with fans around the world expressing equal parts confusion and revulsion over the head-butt that will stand as the final, regrettable act of his remarkable soccer career.

Perhaps he deserves whatever slings and arrows come his way after getting himself ejected from the World Cup final on Sunday, a crushing blow to his French teammates in their loss to Italy on penalty kicks. It was an unforgivable loss of composure, and the man his countrymen affectionately call Zizou will have to live with it forever.

But what, you wonder, will Marco Materazzi have to live with? Materazzi is the defender who goaded Zidane into the head-butt with a bit of gamesmanship that he probably never dreamed would be so effective. Whatever insult he hurled at Zidane must have been a gem, a bit of invective that would make American trash-talking masters like Gary Payton and Chad Johnson look like rank amateurs in comparison. Materazzi has many more games to play, but his legacy is just as certain as Zidane’s — he will forever be known as the man who taunted an icon down off his pedestal. Where is the dignity in that?

Materazzi certainly has shown little of it since the incident. He first declined to discuss it after the game, then admitted days later that he did insult Zidane. He refuses, though, to share his exact words, even though he insists that they were no more hurtful than the ones that are normally thrown around on the pitch. If that is true, then why would he be so reluctant to tell us what they were?

But it is unlikely that we will ever know exactly what it was that Materazzi said to set Zidane off. There have been reports that he called the Frenchman a “dirty terrorist,” or even worse, that he called Zidane’s mother a “terrorist whore.” Materazzi denies saying anything about terrorism, though given the way he has grudgingly given us bits of the truth, he may eventually come off that stance. Zidane has told confidants only that what Materazzi said was quite serious, without being specific.

But really, the precise words hardly matter. Whatever Materazzi said must have been deeply hurtful or vile, otherwise Zidane — something of a hothead, true, but a veteran who has no doubt been the target of some nasty slurs in his time — would not have snapped in such an important game. It may be, as some have suggested, that the Italians were working on Zidane verbally the entire game, a perfectly legal and common tactic, and Materazzi’s words were just the last straw. Either way, it’s remarkable and unfair that Zidane is being so widely denounced while the instigator seems to be getting a free pass.

The concept of sportsmanship varies from sport to sport, culture to culture. To many of us here in the States, for instance, the melodramatic flopping over phantom fouls in soccer seems overly deceptive, even cowardly, while in other countries it is considered a perfectly acceptable and useful skill. But the idea of taunting an opponent to the breaking point should be universally condemned. We Americans are no strangers to trash-talking — it takes place everywhere from inner-city asphalt courts to country-club tennis courts. But the idea is that both the talker and the target know that it’s nothing personal. No permanent harm is done.

When it goes over that line, both the instigator and the retaliator are in the wrong, even when only one of them is punished, as in the case of Materazzi and Zidane. It will undoubtedly be quite some time before Zidane can look at himself in the mirror without feeling regret. If Materazzi is any kind of sportsman, somewhere, deep inside, he will share that feeling.

dream dream……. the cup is ours you have to wait 4 years

Yes Toni, keep that ugly cup.
Nobody wants it. It’s made of hate and intolerance.

florence, germany was defetead by Italy, sorry germany is always defeated by Italy….
I enjoy reading what you and all the people in the blog are saying.
I had an orgasm for having won the cup against Germany and France the team that I hate more

You are talking who are american about intolerance….
I don’t know if i have to cry or laugh.
Please look at your country before talking

I forgot…. the cup is made with gold

Take a look at my country??

The US are the most powerful, innovative and diverse country in the world. Most of you guys in Italy or Sweden have a job because American companies are deployed all over Europe.

But I shouldnn’t have to defend myself Toni. You do a pretty good job at crushing yourself when you say: “Germany and France are the teams you hate the most”.

You prove my point: this cup, just like you, is full of hate, so keep it.

hey you know what i dont liek about france, is the fact that there whole team is made of African decent, i mean since when was france part of Africa … half there players are form countries like senagol, and france goes and steals all there players .. i am not a racist and actully have a couple african friends, but i mean you dont see any while people playing for ghana or cameroon .. i think italy and spain were the only nations to have players from there natural decent .. in addition i think that every nation needs to have a coach that comes from its own country as well .. i mean doesnt that make sence, seeing as he is a vital part of the team

From “The Times”
Zinédine Zidane has been sent off 14 times in his career, two more than Vinnie Jones. Here are those red cards in full . . .

Sep 1993: Marcel Desailly, the Marseilles defender, punches him and the Bordeaux midfield player retaliates in kind.

Aug 1995: Slaps Thorsten Fink, a Karlsruhe player, in the face.

Oct 1995: Sees red for a tackle from behind on Frédéric Mendy, a Martigues player.

Sep 1996: At Juventus, sent off against Perugia after two bookings.

Jan 1997: Punches Enrico Chiesa, of Parma.

June 1998: Stamps on Fuad Amin, the Saudi Arabia captain, during World Cup finals.

Oct 1998: Commits a two-footed challenge on Paolo Sousa, the Inter Milan player.

Oct 1999: Receives a second yellow card for diving against AS Roma.

Sep 2000: Late challenge on Emerson, the Deportivo La Coruña midfield player, in Champions League.

Oct 2000: Butts Jochen Kientz, of SV Hamburg, and receives five-match ban.

Feb 2004: First sending-off at Real Madrid for thrusting hand into face of Pablo Alfaro, the Seville defender.

May 2004: Sent off for second booking after a rash challenge on Djalminha, the Deportivo midfield player.

April 2005: Tries to punch Quique Álvarez, the Villarreal defender.

July 2006: Butts Marco Materazzi in chest during World Cup final

(Also if you think im making this stuff up, go to this web site – http://worldcup.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=91061 – It gives a more in depth look into a few of these incidences)

oh and on the topic of racism .. why is come one considered a racist if they call an african a black bastard .. but if an african or any one else for that matter calls a european or some one from a white decent a white bastard then they are not being racist???

dont you think people take the whole racist concept out a little to far .. especially in sport .. if some one says a racist remark is only coz they know they will get a reaction out of you .. not because they are racist .. just a thought

Hey Mathew,

Good try, you think I would feel the need to retaliate or to make some snug remark based on your idiotic comment?

Come on do one better, bring you own grandmother into the picture.

What a Schmendrick you are.

Rick James, you should be called Dick James.

Ask yourself some questions before making those racist comments.

I

Rick James, you should be called Dick James.

Ask yourself some questions before making those racist comments.

If France has a lot of African people in their team, it’s not because they were “stolen” from African coutries. 20 out of the 23 players in the French team are born in France.

Yes France had a lot of colony in Africa. Italy has only one colony and it was Ethiopia. And you know what: Ethiopia beat the crap out of Italy, that’s why you don’t see black people in Italy at all.

And really, what African immigrant wants to settle in Italy? The government is in the hand of a right-wing conservatism party.
Economy is terrible and socially, benefits like Social Security are pretty bad too.

Do your homework.

Do you say the same kind of stupidited when you look at Chicago Bulls vs LA Lakers?
Or when you watch the Olympic Games?

Rick james “the guy who’s not racist and who has couple of black friends” you sound really racist to me. Go figure. If you don’t know how to spell SENEGAL i can easly imagine your lack of knowledge of the france history and the fact that ALL the french players borned in France, exept Makelele, Viera and Boumsong.
That’s been said, you seem to have no problem with basket ball national team of USA for exemple.

Tell me more about “you are not racist”.
In you way of thinking: “I am pretty suprised you don’t have aborigene people in the socceros team. It is like you imported all the whit people to play soccer” But I have the chance to know more about the australian history than you have with the french one. Learn my friend, learn.

helena, your country is polluting the world, is bringing everywhere the war,….
your waof competing in the business is destroing the world…
Watch the film “Corporation…”
You are a people who mind only the money and the profit, you don’t mind the life and the human beeing

Ok Guys, Thuram during an interview said Materazzi didn’t use racist words, good!!!

Moreover, the players firmed a strong anti-racist contract for WC ‘06 and if they had “smashed” it they would have endured heavy endorsements.

Angelo: it sounds like I hit you weak spot. Aha ahha.

My comment might be idiotic but it is realistic.

Just admit it: your grandma is damned ugly. Would you go on a date with her if you were not related to her?

And really, what kind of dumb ass puts a picture of his ugly grandma on his blog?
I’m sure you even made a MySpace page on her behalf.

Have fun with her. Manga la merda.
Or better: manga your grandma’s merda.

FIFA CONSIDERING STRIPPING SCREW BALL zIDANE OF MVP AWARD!!!!!!

Great, not only is he a dirty player but he let people think for 2 days the Italian player made a racist remake which he didn’t..A true bastard in every sense of the word, and now he goes and says he’s sorry to the children of the world..What a disgrace to all the great players on the French team..Zidane just another classless Frog…

Zidane makes apology for headbutt

Zidane has spoken about his sending-off for the first time
Zinedine Zidane has apologised for the headbutt on Italy’s Marco Materazzi which earned him a red card in Sunday’s World Cup final penalty shoot-out loss

could you stop to speake like: “we, in the US… You in France…you, Italian are just…

MY friends, just try to speak to each other like you are not necessary representative of all the clichés (french word) thought by other people about the country where the other one live.
Damn, I barly understand myself when I read that.

so no racist comments in the end, pure speculation once again.

To all the people that insulted Italian people on this forum, I will just say WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS of the world, we are your champions.

****

4 stars on the shirt now, number one team in the world, that says it all

helana when you talk about italy maybe you are right about economy, but why is full of american in Italy? Becouse it is the best country of the world and even though we are not rich we have a better quality of life than you becouse we don’t live in such Polluted city like the amercian ones. We brought society everywhere in the past and not war like you. We had genious that you will never dream in your country, we have cities everywhere that are envied all around the world. You can’t look down me, and for me the money is nothing.

Good for you Ta Mere.
Please choke on your arrogance.
That might well be the very last cup you win.
See all your Italians bones on NFL.

To helana
why you american just talking about wars?
The biggest italian mistake? discovery america
BTW we are champion of th world …we are the champions of the world… we are .. we are ….. helena please carry on

Toni you must be kidding right.
We americans visit your country in 3 days and we had seen enough.

France is actually the most visited country in the world and then comes Spain.

Actually, the polution in the US is not that bad.
But what do you expect? LA is 10 times your larger city. 12 millions people in a hot desert climate. How can you not expect some type of pollution.

Nobody here envies your way of life. We are all about working, not lazyness.

You can be proud of your history. Italy is the birthplace of Fascism.
But evem worse: when the nazi were defeated, the Italisn turned their vest and joined the Allied.
Be proud my friend. I really wonder what they teach in Italian highschool.

Nfl is a sport for stupid people. We play rugby, without amour. I am proud of not going all around the world to kill people for oil

Helena, go back to your prozac, your wrestling, and indulge in your own fattiness shared by so many of your countrymen.

Toni: what is your annual salary?

Tell me and be honnest.

Helena, I agree with you in the half part of your comment about colonialism but you should keep more attention to the Italian actuality if you want to “speak” about it :

1) the “right-wing” conservatism party has been beaten in the last political voting.

2) Actually Italy is the country with the most important immigrants flow in Europe and 6 immigrant on 10 decide to stay here.

3) Italy is the sixth economy in the world and recently our automotive production is the most active: May 2006 +94,1% – from january to May +42,5% (these are pro stats) …we’re pulling ahead the European car industry at the moment.

We’ve problems like the other big countries in the world but we’re working on them fine.
…so, better if you shut up!!!

ah ah ah what a joke.
italy is the 37th country in the world in terms of growth (1st one in terms of “gross”)

i am from california and i’m pretty confident i m lighter that you are.

explain to me why there are over 5 millions italian in the US?

To helena are you indian?

the capitalism you spead all around the war reduced Africa and poor part of the world like that. For you an oil barrel is more important than a child. Live in Los Angeles I am happy of florence. The americans can be rich but without culture, you need 3 days to visit Italy maybe becouse you don’t know neither what is Uffizzi… or maybe becouse you appreciate more a disco than a painting. Only to visit Roma you need 3 months….

I earn 14 000 euro and i am proud becouse my money are not dirty with the blood. The are 5 m. italians becouse they were poor. But you are really silly you compare everything with the money. This is the reason becouse your country is the most hated country of the world

Helena, I don’t know what Toni’s salary+bonus is but mine is in the 7 figure range, I run a hedge fund. I take special pleasure in shorting US stocks. I have done very well in the last 2 months and today I made a bunch.
I employ some americans as we have a marketing office in the states.
You know what Americans are, VENTILATORS, they just make wind and a lot of noise but in the end do not achieve anything.
It’s over for your country, extreme levels of indebtedness, a housing market that can only go south, higher interest rates, higher oil prices,… you are doomed.
I bet you that 2 years from now a big depression will hit the States. You will then realise how fat and lazy you are, you will realise that there are chinese and indian out there way more intelligent than you, people that are saving and that will own your world tomorrow.

You are living on borrowed time.

Game over. By the way, get out of Irak while you can, you have nothing to do there, it’s not country and the whole world hate you for what you have done there and the guantanamo shame.

If Italians are fascist, recent history proves you have nothing to envy to nazis.

Andrea: thanks for the figures.

A few questions though:

1) where are the immigrants in the Italy soccer team?
I don’t see any and yet, you assure Italy has the largest immigration flow in all Europe.
Don’t immigrants have access to soccer like anyone else or what?

2) Italian cars? What is an Italian car? FIAT? Aren’t these cars prohivited in the US because they are too dangerouns and don’t pass any safet regulation tests?

Or are you talking about Ferraris?

Being in the US, I see plenty of German cars (BMV, VW, Mercedes) and a hell lot of Japenese ones. Once in a while, I see a French Peugoet. But I have never seen an Italian car in my entire life.

3) I thought the last election had been cheated and Berlusconi refused to step down. Oh yes, I already see you talking about our elections.

The point is that Europe is a great continent, no doubt about it.

But so is America.
People who see the typical American as a fat white redneck man are wrong.
Or simply, they have never been to the US.

It is a shame that because of our unpopoluar foreign policy, we are seen as a bunch of imperialist rednecks.

1) Ferrari
2) Maserati
3) la maiala di tu ma’
Forza Pisa e livorno merda

i am proud of my history becouse you can be rich but if you live there is becouse an italian discovered America. I am proud becouse MIchelangelo, Leonardo, Gallileo, Botticelli an more……. were italian. We aren’t lazy becouse otherwise no italians Would have come to Usa for working

ahahahaha, how stupid you are? ahahahahah

Italy, after WWII felt down economically and many italians emigrated elsewhere…after there was an incredible “economic boom”. I know you, american, don’t know these things but Europeans can teach you these and other things. Your college is like our primary school…ahahaha, incredible ignorance!!!! ahahahah, what means “i am from california and i’m pretty confident i m lighter that you are”? Wow, Lol, incredible…

andrea you are absolutely right.. they didn’t understand what is happening whit their pubblic debt, when the chinese Bank finishes to finance your debt you will see what will happen

MIchelangelo, Leonardo, Gallileo, Botticelli ?

Sure I give you credit for that.

But give us credit for:

Albert Einstein, Bill Gates, Martin Luther King, Elvis, Neil Armstrong.

Oh I forgot: Jenna Jameson.

Alright guys, it was fun chatting with you.

But I gotta go now.

You are even more stupid that I am. I am Italian. I live in Italy. I just got bored.

Didn’t tou see you can tweak the little flag?

Aha ah.

But I forgot to mention: I am a male, 19 years old, 82 kg.

andrea she is for berlusconi… my god Berlusconi managed to manipulate, even, the american minds. Usa high school are famous to be really easy and don’t let the students learn enough

vaffanculo mi avevi fatto incazzare

HelenO, Se sei “italianA” allora vai a cagare

forza italia campioni del mondo
4 stars

ahahah, toni tra unpo’ ce ne andavamo in California per menarlo

Helena is a fag?

what a bunch of pathetic losers you are.

this thread is supposed to deal with the next game between france and italy. but all i see heremmis kids bashing each other over two dozen multi millionaire players who spend their vacation together anyway.

too bad there ain’t a moderator to ban all of you guys.

Massimo: So all the American would be 4th generation Italians, just dream on. The only way America is ever going to win the world cup, is by using b52 bombers. And given their accuracy, they probably would miss the pitch. So if you had to play in a team, according to your rule, you wouldn’t be really Italian, nor really American. That makes you a sad loser mate. I more readily trust an Arab than the American not so intelligent services. And Arabs have brought to the world more that America ever will. The best thing about America is the statue of Liberty and the French gave it to you … pathetic.

Well done Italy and I am not looking forward to meeting you for the European Cup qualifying round, because it’s going to be tough without zidane and makelele.

Well, Italy deserved to win the world cup, together with France, Germany and maybe Argentina.

In the final, 2 great teams met, battled it out. First half, Italy had the better chances, second half, France clearly dominating.

Penalties taken, Brilliant Italian penalties, good French penalties, but overall better Italian panalties. Italy therefore deserves win. Well done from a Frenchman.

Materazzi deserves headbutt, and this is the best headbutt and red card in world cup history. Zidane is a genius.

Massimo clearly is a dick and I know plenty of Italians. If Massimo is Italian, than I am the Pope.

Ok people, stop to insult each other. we must stop our stereotypes on the others. Every country has its positive and negative sides. before i criticized American schools but in truth I think in USA we can find real dynamic and cool people, the same in France, Germany etc.
Unfortunately racists and violents are everywhere…and first we should help our birth countries to fight against the “bad people”. Spitting to the toher nations is a pretest to hide our problems.
Peace guys! Peace and love for every shape of life!

Andrea: Ok peace and love. But with the exception of Massimo which is not of the human tribe. No amount of treatment can help this guy. Maybe a vasectomy may help in the long term.

Italians are fantastic. Good cooks, great food, great football team, pacifist (the majority were against Iraq) and part of Europe. Rome and the Romans, great countryside, family values, friendly bunch really.

Its not new that Italians are racists. When they win its always an ugly way, by cheating, by provocating. Knowing that, I don’t understand how Italian can be proud of this victory (petite victoire anyway) Thanks god the penalty shoots came, italian team were dying on the pitch. Am sure that provation has been prepared.After what that guy said to Zidane, the scandals in your own championship, Italy should be so ashame. But as usual Italians doesn’t have any moral, they are too busy showing off.

to rick james, I did not see any aboririgines in your team, what happened to them? You even have some black friends? waou!!! Am french, white but half of my family has a foreign roots!!! and AM FRENCH. French is a nationality. Its not a color. Italy has benetton as a vitrine but its not like that in real life…… What you are saying is incredible, even if you are black or an other color you can be born in france just to let you know, therefore you are french. I hope you have learned something tonight, little ignorant du bout du monde…..yes there are other languages as well…come in Europe they are so many different type of people, you ll be amazed!!!!

proudtobefrench, please don’t waiste your time writing this stupid liars. back to school childish guy!

proudtobefrench : I am French but you are talking nonsense. The Italians deserve this win because they were better at taking penalties. And I think that they are just as good a team as the French. Thierry Henry was quite a good diver himself.

Rick James: What a lot of nonsense. Following your logic, the Australian team should only have Aboriginals in it. Therefore there’s more coloured people in the Australian team than in the French team. By the way, you played great!

“Did you hear that France is doing away with all vending machines in its public school systems? It’s all part of the French effort to raise healthier cowards.”
–Dennis Miller

Bow down and remain in our good American graces you callow frogs; or the next time some megalomaniacal dictator annexes your self-righteous, pompous asses we may not be so ready to lay down our lives for yours.

Congratulations to Italy

to Andrea: am sorry, its what I think.

JohnnyM65: Anything more original? Your wit enlightens us all.

to the italian’s who’ve come here to bag the french do you remember ‘94? I bet you felt pretty gutted, maybe you could show some sympathy.

to the neutral’s who’ve come here to bag the french: get a life.

Cheatalia, knocked the Czech goalkeeper out in ‘38 with dirty play, Mussolini handpicked refs in ‘34, now this, Totti’s spitting, scandal in the FA; Champs at cheating.

Mat vatene a prendere una botta in culo con il tuo amore Zidane.

Sei un cretino di quelli pui grande, propio un imbecile come te non se ne trovono di pui grande.

La tua mama se e fatta fregare da un cano.

Gwen_german pride

Hallo mein Friend! hahaha you make me laugh…Dis guy JOHN. American idiot, why are you talkin bout politics with him? He’s blind, Some americans are such patriot asses.

Does anyone have an opinion on the draw/groups for the Euro2008?
Group B
France
Italy
Ukraine
Scotland
Lithuania
Georgia
Faroe Islands
Well we know France will go through but who else I reckon Scotland about time they did something.

is that an unbiased opinion Jane?

predictions:
France and Ukraine to draw alot of games
Scotland to upset Italy
Lithuana to flog Scotland both home and away

@JOHN!!!!

First of all, why are you hating on the French with your useless racist comments? Why are you addressing Germans with the same sort of racism? Look here baby, did you know that the US killed more innocent people than the nazis did? Hitler and Nazis were pure evil. Dont bush seem jus the same? He operates in hippocracy. he’s more racist than the nazis. Y does US keep atacking middle east huh? GO IRAN!!!Luv them persians. Now about football…All haters who call zidane and team a bunch of losers? yup that’s why they are one of the most top ranked team in the world. that’s why zidane was voted best WCplayer for the 3rd time in a row? thats why zidane is a football legend and France would NEVER be here without him? Italians aren’t so bad eh? But for those who trash talk…if we are sore losers you are SORE WINNERS. JOHN how can you feel pride at a team who exploited their opponents like that? Is this the kind of player you boast about? try pirlo, toni, zambrotta and buffon. they are the real players. But to congragulate a racist bastard who unnerved the GREAT ZIZOU to get a clear path towrads the CUP? Materazzi has scarred the image of Italia. All you portuguese haters should get you asses here now! Dunno why ppl hated portugal. They are an exceptional team. Portugal would’ve kicked AZZURI ass had they been in the finals. john, john, JOHN, y u so ignorant? Id love to slap you silly. I wonder how you are in real life: young, obnoxious, racist, online bully. UH huh…all americans aint like u…ur a bad apple. America is as multicultural as Canada is. Take some history lessons before you try to talk about nazis, white flags, and german occupation. Take some FOOTBALL lessons, play a game and then cry ur eyes when u lose.

The French are nice, polite, have great sportsmanship, and are talented. The Italians are a bunch of great players with talent (and good looks: TONIIIII) with a couple of mistakes that ignore “SAY NO TO RACISM” and who claw at others neck when the referee aint looking (gattuso claws at ballack on his neck Italy vs germany). ANywayz…you couldn’t reply back with a proud statement to gwen. You couln’t possibly defend ur stupid intentions. Unlike you, here in Canada, we are smart, and intelligent and take the time to learn about other countries. Before you open your mouth about other countries, study the US in depth. Or we could tell you…could probably write you a novel 4 u. So hey, try not to say such stuff online caz there’ll be sumone who wont take it nice. This blog was created to share the love of football to fans around the world. And yet ppl like you spout garbage here with the sole intention of sparking controversies and fights between nationalities. I cant believe u had nothing to say bak except NAZIS…well lol u seem more like the nazis than we germans do. racist haters who torment the innocent. and dunt dare talk about zidane. how dare you reflect the exact same personality of materazzi. If you think he is the son of a terrorist then you are the offspring of SATAN. How can anyone say that about zidane of all ppl? If you were him, you’d know how deeply a comment about your nationality, ur ill mother, and you sister would impact you. ur an ignorant jackass…of course u wouldn’t kno…u aint middle eastern…i should bring here sum of my middle eastern friends, u’d hav a nice hearty chat with them. SO next time you talk SH*T, think of what your comments really mean, to you and to others. OR DONT EVEN BOTHER. ppl like you should never have been brought on this earth. Just like BUSH, HITLER, AND MUSSOLINI.

Now that’s ur lesson for today. I am anticipating your thoughtful reply back. And try something new this time. Ur attempts at German are pathetic. use a better internet translator.

Nic is right, the English will never win outside of England. Even my english freinds admit they are not likely to win the cup in their lifetimes. By the way, most of the Brits I know were rooting for the Azzurri. They hate the French as much as the Germans. France gave up goals to S.Korea and overated Spain. Italy gave up 1 own goal and a penalty France did not deserve. Did anyone notice that Henry’s goal vs. Brazil was offside????????? Why can’t people on these blogs stick to the game??????????

Jane can i ask what your problem is with italy .. i man geez i think you are inferior of the poeple and the country and just jelous because the italians were the first to do every thing in life and is the greatest nation ever!!! Ohh “Well we know France will go through but who else I reckon Scotland about time they did something.” You are so stupid, a complete moron, do you not know that france will have like 10 players retired after this WC and have no juniors comming up, where as italy has about 3 players around the age of 16 and 17 who are already with big clubs like Man U and are set to be the next big thing .. so stop posting your stupid comments on here you jelous b*itch .. you know nothing about football .. and yea scotland will realy qualify before Italya dones .. you dumb as*

steven you are totally correct .. and if you wanan know why people dont stick to football on this site its because of there lack of knowlegde when talking about the sport

proudtobefrench .. why should italy be ashamed for .. because our domestic league is better than yours and the best players in the world wanna play in it .. ohh and maybe because we have 4 starts and you only have 1 which you won like 40 yrs ago .. you english are pathetic .. nothing but pathetic…

Anast, You are a coward just like the rest of the frogs…No one will ever forget the Nazi army marching through Paris and the coward French standing there just crying….Men and woman crying and bowing to their masters the Germans…The Frogs would be speaking German right now if it wasn’t for the brave English and American soliers who had to come in after they welcomed the Germans out of fear…The Frogs will always be known as cowards who cant fight and raising white flags….France means cowards and sellouts to their own people….

oh and Helena … i believe America is a really good country .. but lets not forget this on .. if it wasnt for america nad there greed all this terrorism bull sh*it would not have accured .. Osama wouldnt be killing all the thousands of people around the world if it wasnt for America .. i bet your that dumb that you dont even know why osama started attacking the US and the rest of the world ..

and John it totally correct .. when America asked the french to help them out with the fight aginst terrorism, they all sh*t there pants and went hiding haha

I refer john and marco to my previous post.

Italy did not deserve to win the WC final.
I feel like strangling Materazzi.

;D

JHON
YOU ARE A KID PLEASE GROW UP

JOHN
GO TO SLEEP

well,well,well i would not have expected that 3 days after italy’s win in the wc finals we’d be still babbling all this nonsense.
Here is it:
France played well, Italy played better since they won.
Zidane was an ass and ,maybe Materazzi too.
Now september six will be the beginning of a long dominanance of France by Italy and so tha world turns.
Everyone wants to win, but not everyone can!
Italy happens to be good at soccer, as the Brasilians are.
facts are what counts not words.
It has been a very mediocre world cup.
Italian happen to be the best of this bad bunch of teams becouse they played courageous, intelligent soccer.And becouse for once they soot straight at Pk.
France for all the ball movement at midfield did not really ever get dangerous for the italian defence.And so the world turns.
Zidane headbutted materazzi only becouse he was frustrated becouse he was totally neutralized by the Italian defenders.
Or how did you watch the game?
to the next challenge…
Forza Italia

DORIO
VERY GOOD

Chriso,

I would like to sincerely thank you for the keeping this blog alive with chunks of interesting articles. I strongly encourage you to keep us informed of all that is happening in the French National team and in the FFF from now on through the preliminaries for Euro 2008. Many thanks and well done!!!

HEY TONI,
EVERYBODY KNOW THAT YOU PLAY SPORT (RUGBY AND FOOTBALL) with no AMOUR (AMOUR = LOVE in french language). That’s explain a lot of things. LOL

No Steven,

Henry was not offside when he scored against bresil. Go on youtube and get a clue.

HAHAHAH,

Steven you are the only one in the whole intire world to notice that henry was offside when he scored. What an expert!

Marco why do you think Lippi has left what you call a successful team? because he knows there on their way out. What has happened in the worldcup and series A has given the Italian team the worst reputation, may I say worse than Portugal. Scotland has a great deal of talent coming through the youth program so please check facts before you state them. Just my opinion

Dear Jane,
you know very little about Italy or just what some tabloids write. let me explain something to help your understanding about italian soccer:
1.Lippi left because for a coach after winning the WC there is not more ambitious objective to reach.
2.Italy team on average is younger than Brazile and France (Avg. 27years)
3.We have the most talented euro young players. Our Under 21 Team won 6 out of 8 last edition of Euro championship
3 of them are playing with top English league (Manchester UDT, Arsenal). We have much more future than any other Euro teams.
4. All the main Euro team (Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester UTD, Arsenal) are fighting (millions Ruros) like crazy to get our stars (Cannavaro, Nesta, Buffon, Pirlo, Zambrotta, Toni, Camoranesi)into their clubs. Maybe we do not have a so bad reputation (Isn’t?)
5. if after ZZ for the golden ball there are 3 italian players (Cannavaro, Pirlo and Buffon)? Maybe we are not so bad (isn’t?)
6. If in the WC ideal team there are 4 italian players, maybe we are not so bad (isn’t?)
7. If majority of all best players current and past (Zidane-Juve, Platini-Juve, Reijkard-Milan, Gullit-Milan, Van Basten-Milan, Ronaldo-Inter) got he golden ball only after played in the Italian League there is a reason (isn’t)

Last a question for you what happened during the last WC? I recall a team that scored more than other teams, with 10 different players, won against the organizing team (not easy), get only two goals against (and you know how), SO WHAT IS WRONG??

Azzurro, I agree with you.

Please Jane read carefully what Azzurro wrote because it seems you are not so objective but try to find averything against our team…

azzurro is totally correct .. Jane is just an Italian hater and cant hack it that Italy has 4 start .. jane your a moron .. DONE POST ANY MORE DUMB COMMENTS PLEASE

and another point that azzurro missed wat that a scandle like this has happned in italy before .. in 1982 where i think Milan got relegated to serie B .. yet is still regarded as one of the greatest clubs in the world and is second next to real madrid in winning champions league trophys .. and i think you need to look into corruption a lil more .. remmebre last yr when a couple geramn refs went to jail for match fixing?? maybe you dont wanna remmeber it .. The italian league is corrupt, but so is the spanish one, the english league and the german and french as well .. when marce won the champions league back in the day they fixed the final to do so .. so dont speak if you know nothing

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Marco could you please translate for me and send back in English?

any where there was corruption!! don’t be silly!!
in france OM ws relegated in minor division! in England grobbelar was the greatest better of the world! in germany referee was corrupted….
so please anyone should look athhis country bfore speaking of other’s

“France played well, Italy played better since they won.”

Oh please, for the 2nd half Italy was entirely listless and in disarray while France was dominating the game constantly on the attack. The notion that the team that wins is automatically the “better” team is utter crap since we’ve seen time and time again evenly balanced teams win out of pure luck, a referee call, or some other variable. Or look at the Brazil-Italy final in ‘94, in which arguably Italy was the better team but Brazil won.

Italy won because they were disciplined and in brilliant physical condition (fitness coaches should get their own separate medals in this WC, they’re the real winners), and because their strategy is basically to injure and bruise and exhaust the opposition until they cry uncle. When that doesn’t work, they’ll use other types of dirtyhanded abuse. First they injured Vieira (who’d had no injury problems throughout the tournament) and got him off the pitch. Then they got a wounded Henry off the pitch. They injured Zidane and but he refused to leave the pitch, tho he was still in pain. So when that didn’t work, knowing well Zidane’s history of reacting violently to provocation, they hurled insults at him. He didn’t listen to them at first but then it got too much, he was in pain, frustrated and exhausted, and had this lowlife Materazzi (with his own healthy record of violent provocation and red cards) repeatedly shouting obscenities about his family. He cracked, he fell for it. He should’ve waited until after the game to beat the crap out of the materazzi maggot.

The Italian team knew well how to use filthy tactics to win. They’d make a great team for the CIA’s psych. torture office. That’s how they did it. Italy had no flair, no individuality, just the will to do anything, no matter how low, to win. Which they did. Other teams who meet them in the future should go all out to bruise and hurt them and provoke them just as badly. That’s how to beat them, which France was trying to do, just not as well.

Oh, and Lippi’s sudden decision not to stay with the Italy team is probably due to the fact that the punishment against the clubs involved in the match-fixing scandal will all be swept under the rug because of the WC victory. Nice weaselly justice process there. Lippi’s probably not able to stomach that spectacle, tho it was entirely predictable.

Hey watch this! It’s amazing, you can also vote for the best one…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGJ4grSnN38&feature=Favorites&page=1&t=t&f=b

Hey John, I believe that your views on France are biased, French resistance fought hard in WW2 and without their help the allied would have been in trouble. And if u want to play the history genius then I am sure that you can remember about Lafayette helping u getting ur dear independance by backing up the fight against the Brits (btw the statute of liberty is French) so please stop ur moronic comments and stop watching fox news before I send the men in black to kick ur ***

And back to football, we are talking WC final here, why do u come on here bashing French? Get a life d*ckhead…

Hey zidaneisking,
I know that it must hurt badly! But i think that you really going overboard to show that france should have won tha cup.But based on what?
I think that all that ball possession in tha second part of the game was so very sterile, it did not produce other than zidane header not much really.
Also even with italy tired(germany overtime, remember) and with A REALLY SUBPAR TOTTI France kept yes pushing a little more but was italy that had maybe the clearer chanceS to score again
a)Pirlo free kick
B)TONI GOAL WAS NOT OFFSIDED.
On the fact that italy play dirty, please look at the foul stats and you’ll see that france was called i think 20 fouls against italy 13.
So what now Elizondo(refery) was on Italy paycheck.
Also Viera had a pulled muscle due to exhaustion and that was it.
Look i now it is tough to lose and i hate penalty kicks.
But the final tally is the bottom line.
Please accept it and move on.
Italy is champ with no asterisks.
And yes not always the best team wins, but this time it did.

JOHN
go to school pleeeeeeeeeeezzzz. Am I the coward? If you think you are so above why can you not defend your stupidness??? You and Marco should jump off a bridge.

MARCO
Do you know why France, Germany, and soooo many other countries backed out against the fake war on terrorism??? its caz they know that BUSH is so stupid and that its impossible to fight what they call terrorism…remember that Canada also stepped out. America only wanted OIL jeeeezzz cant you guys take this??? Its the stupid US that is just as ignorant as you all.

America came in to ww2 when everyone else had been fighting for years. they waited untill all the countries were depleted. The only place in the world where people think america won ww2 is in america.

If not for france, then all of America would be sipping english tea saluting the union jack. So I guess you can say that france had to save all those pussy americans from the english. without france, america would not be.

After watching that video of materazzi, i think shevchenko can appreciate what zidane did.

LONG LIVE ZIDANE ZIDANE

skillz is wack get a life loser!!!!!!!!!

Hey stupid Marco
I just give you some names, platini, Zidane, Papin and so many other french players who played in your league. How many other foreign people play in your league? its thanks to them that Italy teams won some titles. Yes I know its hard to hear. So what about the coruption, what is the result? I dont hear about it anymore? by the way stupid, if my name is proudtobefrench, might be because Im french. What is important is not the number of stars on your T shirt but the way you get them. Who remembers the way italy won in the 30s…Its funny Itlay was not showing off so much before the world cup, suddenly they think they are the best again, sorry you are not. To win the penalty shoot is not a proof, and that is the only thing you won. Enjoy, its not gonna last long.

italy is the best and everyone knows its true!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGJ4grSnN38&feature=Favorites&page=1&t=t&f=b

LOL! what a d*ck!

Hey all losers.
Tell your french boys to boycott Italian league fools, since Italians and everything italiand disgust you.

And to that “if not for france” – USA bailed you out stupid.

Also to that guy whose still saying France played better than Italy in 2nd half.

Hey! Why dont u take alook at what the french said in defence of their play in semis with Portugal? Its the same thing as what u are trying to justify. The portugese were trying to say they played better but lost, while the french remarks is you played great defence. Check out the blogs pls. and Check out what viera and desaily said. SOme of u even says this is a “smart strategy”. Crap. A win is a win. Get over it.

This forum is so funny!

Put a bunch of people together to talk about soccer and they end talking about war, terrorism, race and call each other names like “nazi”, “fascist” or “french coward”.

France is a great country, no doubt about it.
Some of the best soccer players come from France: Cantonna, Zidane, Papin, Platini.

And so is Italy.

I think the way the World Cup is designed sucks.
You have 32 teams fighting for only one price: the cup.

It should be like Olympic Games.
The best team get a gold trophy, the second one gets a silver trophy and the third one a bronze trophy.

As of now, we end up with 2 excellent teams who fight for the same price. One team gets the trophy, the glory, all the media attention, an extra star on their shirt and most important: a permanent mark in history.
The other team gets NOTHING !

I truly think that all 3 best teams should be rewarded.

And then we could evaluate teams over time by comparing points (3 point for gold, 2 for silver, 1 for bronze).

Does it make sense to you?

It just sucks that the World Cup ends with one team happy and the other team crying on the field.
Ending second or third should be more rewarding.

Thanks for reading.
Comments welcome.

And to all those fools who say Italy won because they use “tactics”, “dirty moves”, “cia-style” crap and such…

Why dont u write in to fifa? In case u didnt notice fifa is the ruling body, who has an extensive set of rules and regulations concerning on and off the pitch. In case you didnt notice again, there’s appointed referee in the match who enforces those rules and make sure both teams play within those rules, including rules on conduct and discipline. And in case you didnt notice, its the ref who has the final say on the pitch concerning whos right and whose at fault. And also fifa as the governing body has the right to open an investigation into any match results especially inquiry into allegations/reports of bad conduct of team or individual in the aftermath of the match.

If youre happy with the way it goes, complain to fifa. Perhaps they may open any inquiry /investigation on Italy team to find if what is said is true. Then you’re be doing the whole world a favor to get rid of such an evil regime. Fool!

hello people!! lol well i think it was awful what Zidane did no need 4 it! Italy won because they were the best team just get over it! i mean lets be real who was going to be there compettion? ENGLAND HAAA they are never going to get into a final they dont deserve the support they get if anyone has been to England when the world cup is on the support is massive they dont deserve it they are poor poor!

agree with ur post john to some extent

But I think that the WC is famous and widely followed because of its inherent passion and drama. rewarding the second and the third team seems legitimate but we can’t fade the glory and the fame that comes along with the victory and/or the quality of the game. I think that otherwise it would lead to emulate the olympics which in my opinion is quiet an insipid competition as compared to the football WC. On top of that, teams performing well at WC enjoy quiet good reputation, look at spain, portugal and the netherlands, they never won a world cup, yet these teams are always feared and that is also why sometimes we remember better about a certain quarterfinal or semifinal than about the final, quality of the game and the magic that comes out of it are the real trophies since great memories are carved in fans’ mind…Football isn t rational thing.

skillz—hey glad to see another canadian who dont support that racist materazzi……i was just gonna say the exact same thing to this stupid JOHN guy. US didnt even come into the WW2 untill Japan bombed their little ass. They were all for “isolationism” the stupid woosiess. Then when they get attacked, they retaliate with a couple of weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION… sound familiar JOHN? ANy country can do that u kno. Canada, Britain, France, Soviet Union, they all fought bravely. Damn.. how can anyone be so stupid??? I wrote you a nice long message up there…read it again…from the tone of your reply, ive got the satisfaction of knowing that i unnnerved you…u cant even reply a straight comment back…u hav nothing new to say so dunt say it at all

John but not the racist one:

hey i fully understand what you are saying…sory but i cant help but try to set this JOHN guy stright…he spouting trash about a country he knows as well as Geroge Bush…i tried to reply to him in a civilised manner but what do i get??? French coward, france and wars, and nazis, and white flags, and us is this and that…obviously i cant get to his thick skull he soooo ignorant. But one thing i cannot stand is false lies!!!!!!! Yes even i say that Italy is a great team…if i said anything that sounded racist towards italy i apologise to anyone offended…i try to see things from every point of view in which i think i am right to say that this JOHN bastard talks 100% wrong, racist garbage. Also that what the press says is true: that Materazzi has said horrible, racist stuff to zizou. Anyways, i hav one more thing to say that i wanted to mention the other day to JOHN…read my next comment

JOHN
You are all for US strength and how France is COWARDLY for not joining the war on terrorism.???

WELL GUESS WHAT??? if you look in the GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS the largest protest ever on this world was held in Rome ITALY…they were protesting AGAINST the WAR ON IRAQ. Over how many millions of italians were participating….this is completely besides football but i love little info like this that says plainly “IN YOUR FACE”. Italy is a great nation that does not support racism, and stupid American useles wars. I’ll bet that ur not even italian urself…but if you are…ur one mistake of a person…jus like materazzi.

By the way….im posting from Canada. This blog has glitches wit the flag thing.

And for all of these supposed racist comments, which right now are all up in the air and are JUST RUMORS. Great way to go back to Junior high you bunch of babies. and where is this proof that shows FOR SURE that Matterazzi actually said any racist comments to zidane? there are about 5 different stories that states what Matterazzi said to zidane, so you know that they cant be true untill proven otherwise.

What we do know for sure is that zidane unjustly and classlessly head-butted Matterazzi in the chest. and that was acted upon and is over.

In sports, in any sport, players say things to eachother, mean things, distasteful things, and racist comments. the point is that you dont retaliate. if you do then that doesnt make you any better than the person who said them in the first place so just let it go.

Zidane isnt telling media what Matterazzi said, so the big babie knows that it must not be as bad as hes making it up to be.

get your facts straight Teresa…do you not watch news??? The press conference? The appearance zidane made when he apologised for the head butt but said he’ll never regret it caz that will mean that wat materazzi said was alright. And if you go to BBC news you can see official news of what both players said and these are REAL quotes too…zidane told his side and materazzi told his. How can you formally come on air and tell everyone HEY MARCO MATERAZZI SAID THIS AND THAT TO ME SO I HEAD BUTTED HIM. hav some sense alright…

well, i actually have a life so i dont watch every press conference, and i found a new blog which you arent on so i dont have to deal with your arigant attitude and stupidity anymore.

the only ‘waste of a person’ here is you ok so just do us and the sport of football a favour and just get out of the blogs..

-my last post here-

yeh cours its ur last post caz u dunt want to hear my reply rite? backing out u coward jus like materazzi? reply back

Anastasia and Teresa: I would pay to see you both on a box ring hitting each other in the face. Tou both are scum.

Teresa
ur and ignorant idiot just like teh others i was addressing. why bother on this blog? yes please get lost u bully wannabe. go to ur own blog and talk to them. Wonder wat u could possibly be? I take back wat i said about us Canadians being smart and intelligent. but i also said there are abnormals in all nationalities. Thanx for proving me right.

Hillarious.

Probably the best blog in the history of manking, ever !

Come on, more insults! Make my day, make me laugh !!

Fabio
hav your say but u can see that i clearly didnt invite Teresa for a hearty chat. whoever she is she sounds like a fired up child. She is just another racist person trying to make themselves feel good by putting others down over the internet.

“trying to make themselves feel good by putting others down over the internet.”

Isn’t it exactly what you are doing right now?

Fabio: I agree with half of what you said: Anastasia is a scum bag.

ahahhaha…so u agree with fabio? read his comment again. first of all go right to the top of this blog then read all my comments and you will see that i was replying back to another child like yourself named JOHN who is pure racist. I have no intentions of putting people down. and read ur reply too then decide who is the hippocryte.

STFU Anastasia!
I’m not racist but you sure are.
You hate yourself and every time you look at yourself in the mirror, it makes you wanna puke. Go get fingered.

teresa are you against france? You clearly are so why are you here? This blog is for France fans. you said you found a blog that Im not in so go to it. If you have something good to say about France and Zidane ur welcome here, say what you want. If you’d like to criticise them then do it on another blog for non-france fans to share you opinions.

Anastasia, for every person like you, there’s a hot spot in hell

for what i heard materazzi didn’t say anything racist!! they if we ant to say the truth the first to say something to the other seems to be Zidane!!!
so please don’t say it’s mmaterazzi foults…
and haven’t you ever seen a footbal match??? hae you ever seen how many times players say bad thigs to the other… should they give headbutter every time??

Did i hurt your feelings that you had to reply in an uncivilised manner? You think im racist? go to school caz i told u to read my comments but u obviously dunt kno how to read then.

Get the f**k outta here Anus-t’Asia.
Italy won and that’a fact you can’t deny. France sucks and Zidane has a serious anger management problem.
2 billion people saw what happened that day but a few dumb people like you have something else to add.

Get out of here. Go to bed, it’s late kid.

dario
i agree with you…what zidane did was obviously wrong too. But do u not agree that he was provoked in some way that made him react that violently?

iyes bbut i see the first oneto provoke was zidane saying ” i can give you my shirt after the match”

Teresa you nigga slut.
Don’t ever tell me I’m a racist.

ok how pathetic who’s the impersonator under Anastasia?

dario you re as stupid as a headless cow.

what is provocating about zidanes’ comment “you can have my shirt after the end of the game”.

materazzi the fascist was holding zidane’s shirt, which by the way is a foult, and zidane replied with a joke.
i guess you don’t get the joke cuz you know nothin bout soccer.

at the end any soccer game, players of both team exchange shirst as a sign of fair play.

so shut up.

Intersting how Italy fans and American France haters have so much time on their hands that they come on over to the France blog to sprew their hatred, ignorance and bigotry. I’m not on the Italy blog, never go there. You people need to get a life, or get some therapy. I don’t understand the sort of twisted weirdo mind that deliberately goes to a blog set up for fans of one country’s team just to spew their rage and filth. You people smell.

the whole point is that italy sucks big dick. they all are racist pigs who should belong to a farm yard, not a soccer field.

materazzi is the most stupid italian nazi of all time and he didnt wait til this last game to prove it.

Anastasia you re losing your mind.
You write you re not a racist and yet you use the word “negga” !!!!!!!!!!

where are you from? in my country, it’s a criminal offense.

come on! i think you are not so stupid for not understanding that zidane said it ironically!! he had jok of him !

let s all speak french so that we can single out all the french haters in this forum.

i see materazzi didn’t say anything racist… the only one sayng racist things is you anastasia

shut up fabio, i bet you’re a fat mexican pig. ahahah yeah that’s what you are: a fat and smelly mexican pig.
you re the one who belong to a farm yard.

dario you re a racist pig.
go get yar ass f**ked by our owner.

very funny my friend.
i might be gay but i m proud and so are my parents.

Materazzi: Zidane Deserved Golden Ball
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 13, 2006; 7:51 AM

MILAN, Italy — Italy defender Marco Materazzi insisted that French soccer star Zinedine Zidane deserved to be named best player at the World Cup despite his actions in Sunday’s final

Zidane was sent off for butting Materazzi in the chest after the two exchanged words in extra time. The game finished 1-1 and Italy won its fourth title in a penalty shootout.

A bust in silver bronze showing French soccer star Zinedine Zidane is seen in Monaco, Wednesday, July 12, 2006. The sculpture by French artist Jean-Baptiste Seckler, has a limited edition of 100 numbered copies, weighs 2,8 kg, is 20cm high and cost 3000 euros (3820 US Dollars). Zinedine Zidane’ s signature is affixed the pedestal and the final point of the signature is made with a diamond of 0,03-carat. This sculpture is on sale by the Monaco company “MMG Entertainment”. Zidane received a red card in the soccer World Cup final in Berlin, Germany, after head-butting Italy defender Marco Materazzi in the chest. The match marked Zidane’s retirement from professional soccer. (AP Photo/Lionel Cironneau) (Lionel Cironneau – AP)

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Journalists still selected Zidane for the Golden Ball award, and Materazzi disagreed with FIFA president Sepp Blatter’s suggestion that the 34-year-old French captain could be stripped of the title.

“He won it for what he did on the pitch,” Materazzi told the Gazzetta dello Sport. “He was the best.”

Materazzi acknowledged he insulted Zidane, who he called his “hero,” without giving specifics.

“I didn’t say anything to him about racism, religion or politics,” Materazzi said. “I didn’t talk about his mother, either. I lost my mother when I was 15 and even now I still get emotional talking about her.”

Speaking on Canal-Plus television on Wednesday, Zidane didn’t reveal what Materazzi said, but indicated the insults related to his mother and sister.

Zidane, who retired after his 108th appearance for France, stressed that he felt no regret about his outburst “because that would mean (Materazzi) was right to say all that.”

“My act is not forgivable,” Zidane said. “But they must also punish the true guilty party, and the guilty party is the one who provokes.”

FIFA is investigating Zidane.

OK I have heard all the news up to now .

France knows that I have been their biggest supporter on this blog .

But I hate to say it but I think Zidane is lying about the mother thing . The sister part is true but I think he is making up the mother part .

First of all , the original lip-readers from Brazil look to be correct about the sister comment but they make no mention of the mother .

Secondly , Materazzi flat out denies making a comment about the mother . I have to believe him because you know how Italians are about that kind of thing . Let alone his mom passed away .

In my opinion the comments made were not enough to justify the attack on Materazzi . Like someone said if he knows your sister that’s different . He knows nobody ; he’s just trying to razz you .

So I think Zidane is being immature by not making a full apology without excuses . Materazzi has said Zidane should keep the award . Zidane should make a full apology .

Still I would like to hear what the full investigation brings to bear on all this .

and by the way, the one that should apologize to the arab world is zidane.
now everybody think arabs have bad temper.
well actually that s kinda true.

Vive la France ! A mort tous les ritals! Tous au bucher.
Pendez les ricains par les couilles!
Vive la France ! Allez les bleus! Longue vie a notre Zizou!
Italiens, menteurs, cochons, fascsites.
Connrds d’italiens de merde, tous des brutes laches et fourbes.
Que Chirac leur balance la bombe une bonne fois pour toute. C’est fait pour ca non le nucleaire, pour les zigouiller ces mafieux de merde.
Qu’ils crevent tous et qu on en entende plus parler, saloperies de ritals de mes couilles.

Viva La Zidaneeeeeeeee
Zidane baby I love you
You are the best

Anastasia lol whats wrong with you are you ok? the nasty words thats comes out of your mouth damn girl lol chill.

ZIDANE ZIDANE ZIDANE

this is off topic but….
i just want to add something about the slightly exagerated tumble that grosso displayed in one of the games ( i think the italy vs. australia ?) , i admit it looked a little exagerant however grosso didn’t make the call , the ref. did so blame the ref. and another thing i must add – the ref. was probably professionally trained , in other words he doesn’t just pick out calls out of his pocket , so if you’d like to argue with the call the ref. displayed than thats fine , it’s not the italians fault such a call was made.

here is a link for all of you who still think Grosso dived against australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2PgG8j0gyQ&search=grosso%20australia

I am french and my parents came from Algeria like zidane’s parents, Zizou is a model of integration, no players in squadra azzura are from immigration, that’s why italian team have not won anything since 1982, and after two world cups missed, french coaches have selected players from immigration and since then France is one of the biggest team in the world and it is colored like brazil team!!!

Anastasia | July 13th, 2006 at 11:56 pm

the whole point is that italy sucks big dick. they all are racist pigs who should belong to a farm yard, not a soccer field.

materazzi is the most stupid italian nazi of all time and he didnt wait til this last game to prove it.
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It’s not even 100% sure what matteratzzi said… so I wouldn’t be judging. And what you just said was probably worse than anything he would have said.

Anastasia | July 14th, 2006 at 12:02 am

dario you re a racist pig.
go get yar ass f**ked by our owner.
———–
I think your taking this all to seriousley. You talk about how matteratzzi said something bad to zidane yet your bad mouthing others.

Teresa | July 13th, 2006 at 11:50 pm

Get the f**k outta here Anus-t’Asia.
Italy won and that’a fact you can’t deny. France sucks and Zidane has a serious anger management problem.
2 billion people saw what happened that day but a few dumb people like you have something else to add.

Get out of here. Go to bed, it’s late kid.
————-
HAHAHA … your my idol teresa , you are absolutley right!

SERB , I think you should speak infront of the whole world , then mabey we would have world peace. Everything you say is absolutley true and fair, Italy won they deserved it just as much as france would have deserved , so congragulations , and move on !

I see that somebody from United States tried to use my username . I am from Canada as all my past posts show .

Shaza | July 12th, 2006 at 2:46 pm

We love you Zidane and you should be proud of yourself because you’re a hero.We understand that you’ve your personal reason for what you had done and be sure that we love you more than before.
God bless you and don’t listen to those people who feel jealous and hate you.

Zizoooo
—————
We are not jelouse and we don’t hate him , he is an amazing player and I have a huge amount of respect for him , however , he should not get away with what he had done , I’m not putting all the blame on him it was also matteratzzi’s fault aswell , but zidane took it a little to far.

i love bush and materazzi
i hate zidane and the pope

i changed my mind
i love zidane and the pope

ITALY HAVS 4 STARS … FRANCE HAS ONLY ONE STAR .. AND GUESS WHAT WHEN THEY WON IT THEY WERE VERY LUCKY TO DO SO .. EVEN THE PLAYERS IN THE FRENCH SIDE SAID THEY HAD ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD .. BASICALLY ITALY RULES THE WORLD ONCE MORE AND WILL DO SO FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY … OH AND FRANCE WHY DONT YOU GET UR OWN HEROS … YOU STOLE NEPOLEO FROM ITALY, PLATINI IS ITALIAN … OH AND NOW YOU GUYS STEAL AFRICANS TO PLAY FOR YOU GUYS … NO WONDER CAMEROON AND NIGERIA WERE NOT AT THE WORLD CUP .. FRANCE STOLE ALL THERE BEST PLAYERS .. SHAME ONE U FRANCE

From “The Times”
Zinédine Zidane has been sent off 14 times in his career, two more than Vinnie Jones. Here are those red cards in full . . .

Sep 1993: Marcel Desailly, the Marseilles defender, punches him and the Bordeaux midfield player retaliates in kind.

Aug 1995: Slaps Thorsten Fink, a Karlsruhe player, in the face.

Oct 1995: Sees red for a tackle from behind on Frédéric Mendy, a Martigues player.

Sep 1996: At Juventus, sent off against Perugia after two bookings.

Jan 1997: Punches Enrico Chiesa, of Parma.

June 1998: Stamps on Fuad Amin, the Saudi Arabia captain, during World Cup finals.

Oct 1998: Commits a two-footed challenge on Paolo Sousa, the Inter Milan player.

Oct 1999: Receives a second yellow card for diving against AS Roma.

Sep 2000: Late challenge on Emerson, the Deportivo La Coruña midfield player, in Champions League.

Oct 2000: Butts Jochen Kientz, of SV Hamburg, and receives five-match ban.

Feb 2004: First sending-off at Real Madrid for thrusting hand into face of Pablo Alfaro, the Seville defender.

May 2004: Sent off for second booking after a rash challenge on Djalminha, the Deportivo midfield player.

April 2005: Tries to punch Quique Álvarez, the Villarreal defender.

July 2006: Butts Marco Materazzi in chest during World Cup final

ZIZZU IS A PIG!!!!!!!

MARCO
HA HA HA
I LOVE AUSTRALIA

Summary of the WC Final:
5th minute. A shameless attempt to knock Henry out of the game, no red card from the ref though.

70th minute. Zidane’s shoulder is dislocated after an egregious foul. Ref fails to red-card the Italian defender.

102nd minute. Zidane almost scores on a header. Buffon saves but the Itlian team is scared to death. They know they are going to loose to the superior French team.

Half time of overtime. Materazzi decides to be the savior of Italian football. FIFA needs to investigate if he was spurred to provoke Zidane by other members of Italian squad.

108th minite. Materazzi pinches Zidane on the chest and utters obscenities. As Zidane walks past he continues sledging.

108th minute. Zidane shows who’s the lion on football field. He turns around and levels Materazzi.

108th miniute. Zidane is given the redcard. He walks out without even casting a glance on the World Cup trophy. He set an example for mankind: honor and human values are more improtant than the glitter of gold.

A DAYS LIFE OF A LION IS BETTER THAN A THOUSAND DAY LIFE OF A JACKAL.

Zidane is the hero of mankind. There is nothing more noble than defending the honor of women, espeically your mother and sister’s.

Materazzi has brought shame upon his country. Sadly so, because I know Italians to be good people.

Marco,
You’ve probably never played football? Probably not. For people who play football the head-but into Materazzi’s chest was nothing more than a push, these things happen on the football field.

All great players have been red-carded at various times in their careers.

MARCO I LOVE YOU

World Cup Awards:
PLAYER OF THE WORLD CUP: Zidane

Biggest cheat of the worldcup: Materazzi. He just can’t win fair and square.

BUT ITALY WON FAIR AND SQUARE!

FOR YOU OUT THERE THAT DON’T KNOW IT YET…SOCCER IS AVERY SIMPLE GAME!
yOU HAVE TO TRY TO SCORE BY PUTTING THE BALL INTO THE OTHER TEAM GOAL.
ALL THE REST IS NON SENSE.
THE BEAUTIFUL PASSES THE FAST PACE AIN’T WORTH NOTHING IF YOU DON’T SCORE.
IN THE MATTER OF FRANCE VS.ITALY…FINAL SCORE 6-4.
iTALY WINS.pirlo better than zizou (cucu’ the cup is not for you).
WE’LL MEET AGAIN AND IT WILL BE MORE MISERY FOR FRANCE.
i GUESS THEY’RE BETTER AT RUGBY1
SALUT

To Italy 4 stars,

Funny how you describe the french team… U know we have a great team and that France is a football powerhouse, Italy couldn t beat us anytime through the last decade, 1998, 2000, we even beat them in Italy on their soil 1 – 0 Djorkaeff scored at that time. Today u claim that we suck just because we lost the final one man down after penalty shootout and a fairly balanced game…The difference doesn t seem that obvious to world and if I were you I would be cautious as for the next game in september.

You are nothing but pathetic, and I induce from your comments that you are somehow racist and ignorant (both come along). For the cliches you showed about the people playing for the French team are blatant. Can t you just understand that these guys are French, born in France, French education, a few of them having been naturalized. I guess you just can t put up with facts. Owing to well known historical reasons and welcoming foreign policy (France attracts many immigrants, there must be good reasons for that) our country is a multi ethnic one just like England or the States(have a talk with Platini, Zidane and the likes they will all tell you they are of immigrant descents but that they are French in the first place) and this is a strength we draw on (just like the American basketball team is all black, but do u claim that Jordan isn t American?? non sense!!)

On top of that, you posted from Australia, if I recall well, Australian football team is a good example of players of immigrant descents or naturalized one (many from Croatia and even one from Italy!) shall we consider this team representative of Australia?! Of course yes. Your argument just doesn t make any sense.

Keep it humble mate, learn how to be a good winner or you’ll be a sore loser soon.

> learn how to be a good winner
> or you’ll be a sore loser soon

shove your threats up your ass and deal with the fact you have lost and Zidane has disgraced himself and your country with the most shameful of things. The would cup taken away from italy? In your wet dreams

It is being said that if the fourth official admits that he has seen zidane’s incident on the monitor and not in real time then the red card was a technical error and the match is to be replayed!!

Sergio,

There’s no threat and I wasn t talking to u. Just asking the guy to be reasonable. Simple as this. And if you’d be a minimum clever you wouldn t reduce my post to that tiny statement but would be constructive and catch the main message in it which is all about pointing out primitive racism and correcting biased views about my country.

As for the Zidane move, I never mentioned it in my post nor do I condone it but hey, every team has lows and highs and so Italy does. So take it easy and go cheer the final victory that won t be long till september comes…

And yes, if u like facts, Italy hasn t beaten France through the last decade including the Euro 2000 that we won because of our fighting spirit never let down (Trezeguet and Wiltord scored two beautiful goals) just the very same spirit that led France to the final this year and kept us attacking even with one man down just to loose the cup by the thinest of the margin (penalty shootout)… Like I said, keep it humble mate.

Alexis .. you are so dumb haha .. what so you think that it was fiar that france got a penalty after maluda dived?? you also think its fair that luca tonis goal was disalowed, yet it was a goal?? so you call that a fair game haha your a JOKE .. italy should have won 2-0 at the end of 90 minutes .. and as for Euro 200 .. France was just very lucky to win … i bet if italy dont bring a b grade side to the september game, italy will teach France a lesson like they did in the 30’s and you wont see france do anything in football again for 50 yrs!!!!!!!!!!

Play whack-a-Materazzi

http://www.footballfansfortruth.us/archives/001550.html

Arrogant-french-players-will-lose-again-in-Paris.

Italia Rita you are funny loooooooool I’m laughing so hard its good that you change your mind lol foget Bush and Materazzi

Zidaneeeeeeeeee is the best
Love you Zidane

oh Pope is a good guy too with out of respect

is france in a tough group for euro cup qualifying?

The real fact is: WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS AND ALL OF YOURS ARE LOSERS. the italian team is the best in the world, and everyone who wants to speak about us has to wash his mouth:remeber our 4 world cup. Remember this. Ps Platini and Blatter sucks!

Marco,

Again my post was mainly about responding to racist comments. Are you blind or sth?

You are the dumber one mate, there was another fair pk which wasn t allowed to France so it got balanced, Toni was offside, watch the replay and learn the rule. If Malouda dives then what about that pk Grosso got vs Australia…? And for the lucky 2000 win claim u made let me laugh, we won putting the ball twice in ur net FAIR & SQUARE, and u kept whining for ages while we were the only team winning the WC and the Euro in a row!
This year the cup was handed to Italy after penalty shootout while France was one man down and dominated the second half, that seems to me rather lucky though overall I believe the game was balanced, but again u will probably boast a great defense so this could go on and on for hours…
Like I said keep it humble, it’s over now you won the cup, fair enough, but we ll get our own’s back for sure and make sure this final was an exception. That is what this blog is all about.

ps: when we won in 1998 we beat Brazil 3 to nil, THAT was a real crush!

Ciao bambino and enjoy the victory while u can, time flies…

“keep it humble”..hehe what a joke coming from a french person!

and all that repeating that you do about the 10 years, sorry but what about all of the 20th century when you coudnt do squat against us?

u keep it low, Alexis.

Marco, he is just a jealour french fag.

Sara…
Well well, It’s been actualy since 1986 WC (Italy 0 – 2 France) (I even recall a 1994 game that we won IN Italy 1 – 0) that we consistently beat Italy, 1986 is the 20th century isn t it? Thanks moron…

And yea whatever… Call me names, my girl is Italian and she loves Frenchies … And it seems that you live in France like many of your mates who have come to Paris or south France. Who is being jealous here?

Well well, I kept my post clean but you guys keep cursing, did I strike a nerve? And why do u come on the French blog if you hate the team so much? Just to spill your racist comments… ?Mmmm too bad…

How we remember Zidane:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CizW7xDXpU&search=zidane%2Bchampions%20league

Ragazzi, enjoy!

SEPTEMBER 6TH 2006……
THE BEST GOALTENDER IN EUROPE
WILL PLAY FOR FRANCE…LET THE NEW FRENCH SQUAD DEFEAT THE 06WC
WINNER…CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY COULDN’T DO IT IN 2000…..
WIN WC AND BACK IT UP WITH EURO CUP….FRANCE DID!!!!!!!!!!

World champions!

I WONDER WHAT WILL THURAM TRZEGUET AND VIEIRA DO NOW THAT JUVENTUS IS DEMOTED….GET READY FOR EURO 08…FIRST VICTIM …..
LES RITALS DE MES FESSES…..
ALLEZ LEZ BLUES COUP D’BOULES GAULOIS A LA ZIZOU

campioni del mondo!

i francesi sanno rosicare;)

alexis, btw dahling im not french. i speak french though(the most beautiful;) language in the world according to the french)

good for your gf if she loves the frenchies;)

“i kept my post clean” ..hmm…just the way henry never dives, is that right, honey?

keep it humble honey, the future’s surely not bleu blanc rouge:)

4 times world champions. the grapes r too sour,is it?

im getting the hell out of this racist country as soon as my bf’s contract gets over. have to choice but to live here for now and put up with you guys…but i love every minute of it!

the best part was getting into the metro monday morning, ahhhhh what sweet pleasure !!! i hoped it would last long…but then again i snap out of my dream to walk into work and see all of u complaining !!!! aw what a bummer. can’t even take defeat well….

like madonna once said “the italians do it better” ..i think she was talking about football besides other things;)

ciao max! come va?

the-final-match-must-be-repeated-but-only-playing-with-the-headbutts-.

scuse-me-guys-but-some-beer-last-night-fell-on-my-keyboard-and-my-spacebar-is-blocked-……

Serpico,

That’s such a good idea.

I doubt that the azzuri will win, bcoz the french are much stronger there;)

we’ll brave out to the stade the france on the 6th Sept, it will be fun that one!

grrrr..the french lions will come out strong on the azzuri. ofcourse, they don’t need a zidane. they are a “team” aren’t they?

I know that this victory of italy on france is hard to digest for you… we’ll meet in Marseille, there’s no problem for italy my friend, hell is also a nice place to win against you

ah, please remember, the next world cup will be in 2010 but you have to win 3 others one to reach italy

ciao belli!

so much hate to each other we have, can we show some respect to ourselves as decent human

I was reading these posts and I see that there are a lot of sore losers and a lot of jealous people that the great Italy has won its 4th world cup title..people get over it!!! we hold the cup, we have won it for the 4th time and we are chasing brasil and we intend to tie them at 5 and pass them possibly…now everything that happened in the game against france is already history, be adults and get over it..we are the champions my friends!!! CIAOOOOO

…By the way, even Italy has lost in 1994 against Brasil with the penalty shot outs..and it was hard for us to digest that, but we did…and we went on..then it came 2000 european championships against France..we played better we were winning the game 1-0 and in the stoppage time they tied up and won with a golden goal by Trezeguet…remember this everyone?? it was painfull but we took it and we shut up..now all of these sore losers cant take the defeat…poor babies..lol grow up…ITALY IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONS AGAIN!!!! CIAOOOOOO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5taIKONL0gM&mode=related&search=EURO%202000%2Bfinal

que c’est beau:

ça montre encore une fois que vous français vivez que dans le passée.

Le futur n’est pas bleu blanc rouge le présent non plus.

apprenez à perdre sans se raler tout le temps….nous on a bien accepté le defait en 2000, mais c’était l’euro et ça le coupe DU MONDE !!! hehehehehe….

Liberté pour les français!!!

pour le video : mais oui c’était beau. mais pas aussi beau que notre victoire le 9 juillet:)

poor crying frenchie

donc, vous avec trouvez un mot français pour “le foot”. J’ai une idée – “calcio” c’est comment on appel ce jeu dans un pays qui a desormais 4 étoiles!!!

hehehe.

France should not be looking forward to playing Italy again especially with the retirement of their better players.

4 stars …..la vita e bella

kasets,

i agree with you. and to top it all there will be all of us italian supports in the stade the france to enjoy the moment of silence…i hope to see a few french tears as well:)))))))

Oui Sara dont 2 obtenues en 1934 et 1938 sous l’ère faciste de mussolini, es tu fière de cela aussi.Quoiqu’il en soit bravo j’ai consolé plus d’italiens et d’italiennes que tu ne consoleras de français…

4 stelle ! We are the champions!

Thierry,

You won one so far and that too on home ground.

BASTA I FRANCESI ! Leave us in peace!!!!!

We didn’t bother you after the euro 2000 , so whats your problem now???

To Sara,
all my best sara.

P S: I remind you, you are in a french blog, nothing against my friends.

FRATELLI D’ITALIA L’ITALIA S’E’ DESTA DEL SEGNO DI CIPRO S’E’ CINTA LA TESTA DOVE’ LA VITTORIA LE PORGA LA CHIOMA CHE SCHIAVA DI ROMA IL DIO LA CREO’..TATA TATTA TATATATA FRATELLI D’ITALIA…I WANT TO SAY JUST ONE THING..WE DONT NEED TO RECRUIT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AFRICA TO MAKE A TEAM, WE ARE 100% ITALIANS WHEN WE PLAY WITH OUR NATIONAL TEAM…WE COULD HAVE PLAYED EVEN THE MARTIANS IN THIS WORLD CUP AND WE WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAY BECAUSE WE WANTED THE CUP SO BAD…AND HOW SWEET IT WAS TO BEAT THESE FRENCH …..TOO SWEET TOO SWEET…CIAOOOOO

WE ITALIANS DO EVERYTHING BETTER THAN THE FRENCH

we italians do everything better than the french but….dont get me wrong the french are pretty much ok as well…anyway, we are better lovers, we cook better, we have better wine, our clothes are better, our cars are better and we won the world cup 4 times instead of french only 1…well..i dont wanna put you guys down because again i think france is a very good country with great culture as well..but get over this…we won it..ciao

Alessandro i agree with you, however lets not put those guys too much down, they can go around their colonies or ex colonies and recruit new players to make a new national team, and maybe give us some hard time again like they did it in the past. I have many doubts this will happen again, but you never know..i agree with you that was sweet to beat them , i dreamed about it after the robbed us in 2000, but lets respect these chickens, i mean roosters!

Forza Azzurri

Italy 2006 World cup Champs…again

Yes we’ll meet again.

But the fact is that Italy could never beat France with Zidane fair and square.

They could only win by provocation. I bet that is what the halftime (of overtime) convesration was all about, how to provoke Zidane. The caoching staff and players must’ve come up with very “creative” obscenities.

Atleast this is my opinion. FIFA must investigate the provocation throroughly. I doubt they will though.

“Yes we’ll meet again.

But the fact is that Italy could never beat France with Zidane fair and square.

They could only win by provocation. I bet that is what the halftime (of overtime) convesration was all about, how to provoke Zidane. The caoching staff and players must’ve come up with very “creative” obscenities.”

OH shut up…excuses excuses, with zidane we would have lost the game..right, ;ets see..it was the second overtime and italy and france were still tied 1-1 and zidane was there until that point…france wasnt winning either i guess, they gave france a ridicoulous penalty kick, did you wathc the replay?? there wasnt any fault but still u got lucky to get that penalty kick…we hit a crossbar that in my opinion if the ball goes inside the game was over…we scoared a goal with Toni and that could have been a good goal…France was lucky to be tied with italy, and how can you be so sure that with zidane france would have prevailed with penalty kicks? The penalty kick he kicked went into the net with a lot of luck…it hit the crossbar and almost got out…so…zidane was just silly and stupid to react to anything Materazzi could have said to him…that was plain stupid…so stop finding excuses and say that with zidane france would have won it…because u dont know it…ciao

Yes I know France would’ve won if if not for the chest pinch and provocation.

Zidane is a lion on the field. With him around the Italian team was scared to death. The cowards and thugs like Materazzi gain heart when lion like men aren’t around.

Italy would’ve lost 3-0 on PKs.

Hello everyone…this is the president Chirac..
My fellow french people, Italy has won it..lets show them we are great people and lets accept the defeat like Napoleon Buonaparte accepted the defeat in Waterloo..
Zidane is a great man, he tried hard to bring the world cup to paris..My heart was broken to see those Italians dancing and celebrating on the field with the cup…they have 4 stars now on their jersey!! ohhh cheri..je t’aim.
We are a great people, we will raise again and bring materazzi to justice or justice to him…zidane’s mam , that lovely lady I talked to her personally and she wants Materazzi baloons on a dish at the champs elisei..ohh oui we will try to make her happy, she is a woman with immense class to wish something like that..a real Franch lady!! anyway..people of france…I personally will go tomorrow to ghana, camerun, and other parts of the old french colonies to find new players for our lovely team! we will beat Italie again! we will beat Italie again! now i have to go because i am still crying about the world cup..oh those italiennes dancing and cheering like that…mercy on France…vive la france! vive la france!

My fellow french people!! Mou cheri! I have the greatest news ever! I spoke personally with mounsier Blatter! the president of Fifa!!oui!! the man!
I wasnt making any kind of pressure on him even tho i had a loaded gun on my hand and pointing it at mounsier Blatter head, but I asked him if we could watch the replay of Mounsier materazzi de italie and see from his lips what the hell he said to zidane to get such a violent reaction..he said yes we could do that and maybe we can replay the game!! OUI!! OUI!!!again…it was a spontaneous and lovely conversation with him, no pressure at all! Oh i cant wait to tell this to my wife the first lady…vive la France! maybe we play again and win with zidane?? oui lets hope please…i dont sleep anymore at night..i want that cup please ..mercy mercy..

Hey TIMECHASER…your country can’t even get past the quarter-final. So STFU.

My fellow citizens of the repubblic..i just finished a conversation on the phone with mounsier Materazzi..he said that he didnt say anything bad to zidane..he only told zidane his italian sausage size, and zidane, mou deus, couldnt accept the defeat so his reaction was quite violent…
we just finished to read materazzi lips on the slow motion replay and he only said ” my italian sausage is 29 cm!!!” poor zidane..I understand him very well now..courage zidane! we still admire you…now we know why u were so angry at materazzi…vive le france!

oh Mr.President, I LOVE U !!!

Pls bring back our cup home, it belongs only to France and no one else!!! NO other f*** country on this planet has the right to it!

Liberté
Egalité
Jules Rimet
In Culaté!

ps: Madaonna was SO right, Mr.President! I hate to admit it but I think we should use the same tactic on her to make her wear a tee that says “The french do it better”

Vive la France!

‘The Italian ‘had the temerity to speak words to Zidane – who dares speak to Debussy as he composes, to Victor Hugo as he writes, to Edith Piaf as she sings, to Monet as he paints?’ (Luke Dempsey, New Republic)

Kruman,

Tell me that you really don’t believe that the french could have won given 8 mins extra with their Zidane. Tell me this is not true…or let mother earth open up and take me in with her.

Kruman,

U forgot Da Vinci and co whose works peacefully in the Louvre.

And more recently, if our ppl had not immigrated, they would have not had a Napolean or a Platini!

Or for that matter master Lippi with who Zidane learned this art. without us, they would be nothing today. Ungrateful scums!

Sara,
God knows best.

Poetic justice is done.
Zidane gains respect and honor. Materazzi earns shame. Mysterious are the wasy of God.

Sadly for Italian fans, they will have to keep justifying their cup the next 4 years. A chest-pinching thug spoiled their fun.

This was not the World Cup, it was really the ZIDANE CUP. This is how it will be viewed by historians.

Peace,
Kruman

“Kruman,

U forgot Da Vinci and co whose works peacefully in the Louvre.

And more recently, if our ppl had not immigrated, they would have not had a Napolean or a Platini!

Or for that matter master Lippi with who Zidane learned this art. without us, they would be nothing today. Ungrateful scums! ”

Sara,
I didn’t compose this. I merely quoted from an online aritcle.

http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=277657&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__sport/

“Above all, I’m human,” he said on French television on Wednesday night, after three long days of silence following the brutal move that marked the end of his stellar, 18-year career.

I speak some french and I can tell u he didnt say “im human” he said “im a man before anything else and as a man i couldnt take the insults”

I’m now only feeling sorry for you, Kruman.All this while I thought you were amusing. But now ur pushing it.

Sara,
I respect your feelings, they are nothing but good-hearted patriotism.

Congrats on the winning the cup!
Remember:
“There are more sorrows in life than the sorrows of love”

I have decided to keep my feeling to myself and hopefully inted to retire from the blogs. Baba Bhulley Shah, sufi master and a true man of God said:

Destroy a temple, destroy a chruch, destroy a mosque, destroy whatever you may

But don’t break the hearts of people for that’s where God resides.

Peace,
Kruman

Sara and co,

Come vai?

Why r u so aggressive toward French people…?
Were u turned down by them, or they made u feel inferior, u expanded a complex? They were racist to u, looked down on u? If all that happened then I feel sorry that u met the wrong minority people… But let’s cheer up these two nations, we r cousins, we are more alike than any other nations in Europe and our history is common to many respects…France is indebt toward Italia but so is Italia toward France, why do u think that our flags look so much alike? Why is that so many people learn French and Italian on both sides?

France won in 1998 and 2000, Italia won 2006, who knows what will happen next… It’s always tight and exciting…

As for the french being sore losers, I can t agree. Of course there are always sore losers (in any nation) but the majority of them are known to be tough to themselves, they also like to deride themselves when they mess up… Have a look at this song making fun of the team and Zidane, it came up right after that final loss, French people laugh about it, no big deal.

As for the argument that French people live in the past, well it’s partly true, but knowing both countries (myself and urself) u must admit that it is also true for Italia. And that isn’t too bad a thing as it is a great proof that our “common history” is rich

There’s no point in bashing both countries. Teasing is part of the game, fair enough, but rough (racist) bashing is non sense.

“There’s no point in bashing both countries. Teasing is part of the game, fair enough, but rough (racist) bashing is non sense.”

Great words of wisdom, Que c’est beau!

que c’est beau:

well so we all agree then that whatever the words the headbutting wasn’t called for?

We’re mates then

ps: yes, i hv faced enough racism in the last 3 years i hv been here. maybe subtle racism but it was was racism. inspite of that i still think that violence is not the answer! and more than anything, we KNOW that M didnt say anything racist, so what are all these ppl getting cheap thrills about???

all he did was say words wch fly around a 100 times on the pitch!!! for gods sake!

ps: i’m still waiting for a link to the song

que c’est beau:

i forgot to mention: a french can NEVER make an italian feel inferior. I mean it very seriously. U can try as hard as u wish, but there is nothing abt the french that could make the italians feel inferior. Calcio included.

When all is finished, despite everyone getting either mad or glad; you are two great nations. This will be the last World Cup in Europe for a while; hoping the best for humanity that is;

Some gloat, others; I told these guys from Italy, not 4 generation Italian Americans, I consoled these guys; and they said, well, maybe next time! Uh-huh!

But honestly, some others have gotten under my skin.

Is France a soccer mad nation? What Zidane did, you know, very few could take, especially if the player was for, really about any country but France. But there are all kinds of ways to lose too.

Maybe next time; no wait, I will just enjoy domestic leagues, I said, months ago, You know I go to an ethnic festival and part of it are soccer games; this largely refugee community play, and I enjoy those Hmong games, about the same as the World Cup; more honest games, not money driven, fanatical nationalism, this is a festival where people see each other who are otherwise scattered and don’t see each for long amounts of time. I stick by that.

Out of the 4 finalists, clearly 3 used very questionable tactics throughout the tournament; the 4th team was clean this time around but coached by a man many called a diver during his career at Tottenham and the Nationalmannschaft.

Sportsmanship is what I look for, that was the big loser in this world cup.

Above I did not make it clear, in 2002 I consoled these Italians from Italy, and they said maybe next time, but they weren’t these 4th generation Italian Americans so many of these braggarts are.

3 of the 4 finalists used questionable tactics throughout the tournament; and Italy has been rocked with the worst soccer cheating scandal ever with the relegation of Juventus etc.

Marseilles however, knows of these kinds of problems as well. Check the early ’90s.

Italy has had the biggest soccer ceating scandal ever; and cheat in front of everyone in the World Cup, there is no pride in their championship.

Kings of Football:
1958 – 1970: The rule of Pele
1982 – 1990: Maradona
1994-2006: Zinedine Zidane, the lion

Summary of the WC Final:

70th minute. Zidane’s shoulder is dislocated after an
egregious foul. Ref fails to red-card the Italian
defender.

102nd minute. Zidane almost scores on a header. Buffon
saves but the Itlian team is scared to death. They
know they are going to loose.

Half time of overtime. A ploy is conjured to provoke
Zidane.

108th minute. Materazzi pinches Zidane on the chest
and utters obscenities. As Zidane walks past he
continues sledging.

108th minute. Zidane shows who’s the lion on football
field. He turns around and levels Materazzi.

108th miniute. Zidane is given the redcard. He walks
out without even casting a glance on the World Cup
trophy. He set an example for mankind: honor and family
values are more improtant than the glitter of gold.

A DAYS LIFE OF A LION IS BETTER THAN A THOUSAND DAY
LIFE OF A JACKAL. Zidane chose a lions life of valour. Materazzi chose a jackals life of shame.

Zidane is the hero of mankind. There is nothing more
noble than defending the honor of women, espeically
your mother and sister’s.

Long live the lion Zidane! Materazzi gave up his honor
for blinding glitter of gold.

Zidanes earns repect and honor worldwide. Materazzi earns disgarce. He and the conspirators won nothing but the world cup of shame and disgrace.

Kruman, baby , i’m back after a few beers and ur still at it?!

Frings, that guy, defender for Germany, was suspended vs. Italy, but it was reported well before that match that the Italians reviewed the video (of the fracas after the Germany/Argentina shootout) and reported it to FIFA; of course, this is denied. Italy after all, is home to the largest match fixing cheating scandal ever in soccer, just having gone through the courts.

Italy opened up there fair play with busting open Brian McBride’s face a la Materazzi vs. Juan Pablo Sorin in the Champions League earlier this year.

Then, this act against the captain of the opponents team.

Got me seeing red!

Hello Sara,

On dirait que tu dis tout et son contraire.
Tu dis qu’il ne faut pas vivre dans le passé quand un français te parle de la coupe du monde 1998 et de l’euro 2000. La minute d’apres (ou le post d’apres) tu t’oublies et tu dis et redis que vous etes 4 fois champions du monde (je sais vous etes une grande nation de football et il y a des joueurs italiens qui sont parmis mes favoris) vos 2 premieres étoiles datent de 1934 et 1938!!! et la 3eme date de 1982… Alors tres chere, qui vit dans le passé??
Encore une fois, vous avez fait une belle coupe du monde et vous meritez la coupe.

Sara, encore et toujours,

Tu me fais bien rire quand tu dis que les italiens avaient accepté leur defaite en 1998 et 2000. LOLZ
This one is so funny.
Non franchement, pendant quelques temps en france et à l’etranger où j’ai vecu, je ne me souviens pas beaucoup d’italien qui ne contestaient pas, d’une manière ou d’une autre, les victoires francaise.

De plus, chère Sara moi je vis avec mon temps, alors ne me parle pas de la victoire de 1934 et 1938, car je ne connais ni les joueurs, ni les équipes adverses. En revanche, aussi loin que remonte ma mémoire et ma passion pour le foot je sais que la victoire de l’italie il y a 8 jours était la premiere depuis 1978!
Je sais aussi autre chose, c’est que beaucoup d’italiens fetent le titre (ce qui est normale)mais aussi que beaucoup d’entre vous semblent etre plus content que les autres pays soit en colere ou souffrent de leur defaite. C’est bon de voir la tristesse des autres, hein??
En 1998 en France, il n’y avait que du respect pour les bresiliens et las autresnations éliminées.

Clement,

Don’t waste your time with her bs. Let her run to Corsica and inform them that Napoleon was Italian… lol

I think team France was GREAT.

But to me it’s Ribery who deserves the French admiration: I have never seen a guy run that much, with so much heart. He is spectacular!

Zidane stole the joy of the game with his act, whatever the result of the final.

There is a song by Ruben Blades where he says there is a difference between being a male and being a man. I think Zidane that day acted like a male, following his instincts and forgetting there was more at bay for his whole team. A man would have set aside his feelings for the good of the team, and… settled it with Materazzi in the locker room!

Domenecq needs to go to behavior school. Every time a referee made a decision against France, he started mocking him. He makes his team look bad. He doesn’t deserve the amazing players he has.

Signori e signore buonasera, samo qua’ oggi per ricordare a tutti i francesi invidiosi che hanno perso la finale contro una grande squadra azzurra, una grande squadra Italiana. L’Italia e’ non a caso per la quarta volta campione del mondo. Abbiamo insegnato il calcio a tutti quanti brasiliani inclusi. Se la Francia ha ottenuto dei risultati positivi negli ultimi anni e’ perche molti dei suoi giocatori hanno beneficiato di giocare nel campionato piu’ bello del mondo, quindi ci dovrebbero ringraziare.
To be at the top of the world for the 4th time isnt not a coincidence. Our soccer is one of the best of the world..even tho right now in italy we are cleaning up the world of our soccer, we have had the best championship of the world for years and many of the french players of the past and the present played/play in our champonship, thats why France got better, we taught you the game…you learned from us, you should be thankfull people..
Our clubs teams have won so many cups and international tournaments that you french can only dream about it…so lets be frank, we are much better than you, stop finding excuses with that Zidane thing, if you were real champions you should have won even without that old man…right?? Ciao Ciao
Proud to be Italian, proud to be florentine..:-)

Italian football is terrible. They play ‘not to lose,’ other teams play ‘to win.’

Playing like Italy is easy but ugly / boring, so lots of teams don’t do it…God be praised!

Hopefully this Italian style is not addictive or we will get many draws and PK and many disappointed fans.

Freedom fries, you dont understand anything about soccer, stick with hockey trust me…and what you said it isnt true, italy doesnt play catenaccio anymore, we have a strong defense which is the best of the world, but we like to attack as well..have u ever heard about luca Toni? Gilardino? Inzaghi? Iaquinta? they are strikers and all of them scored at least one goal in this tounrnament..have you watched the italian games on this tournament? we attacked…have u watched the semifinal with germany? it was an open game..both teams attacked…obvioulsy u are another stupid jealous who dont understand anything about football and just wanted to give an opinion that has 0 value..U from canada? oh boy..thats a great soccer team..ciaooo
4 stars on our glourious jersey..and still going..

Still going, Serie B, Serie C,

High elbows on McBride or Sorin, cheating provocations, finking on Frings to FIFA,

Giro d’Italia winner Ivan Basso banned from the Tour de France as part of an ongoing doping scandal;

Yes, going and going.

Well,
I read all about the lion, well living as lion for 1 day is better than living as a jackal for 1000.

LOL, where is the LION?

Zidane this, Zidane that… I believe he prefers his collection of Red Cards to a Trophy Case.

Let him think what he may, why if a Lion does he not go back out there and reform the world where women are not always treated so well.

LOL, those comments are brilliant on your part.

Clement,

I’ve resigned from my blogging career but then like any blogger i can’t help coming back !

All i want to say is peace. If you want to defend zidane’s 14 cars and the kicks and slaps and head butts, its fine with me, and with all of us im sure. It says a lot about u ppl.

One of my colleagues at work told me today that he is shocked tht ppl insult on the pitch, I told him upfront that I really didnt know which world you guys are living in.

anyways, these r endless debates.

we KNOW we merited it, but thanks for acknowledging it finally.

I’m sure the tides will turn in favour of the french someday , and mark my words, then u wont see us spitting venom just bcoz u have won.

italians play for the love of the game, ofcourse every team wants to win, its not a charity show going on there, is it?

incase ur not aware, calcio is the 2nd religion in italy, and as of today the 1st

peace , clement:)

SARA IF YOU DILIKE FRANCE SO MUCH ….WHY ARE YOU THERE????
ITALY CAN PROVE THEIR DOMINANCE BY WINNING EURO CUP 08
LIKE FRANCE DID IN 98 & 00 UNTIL THEN i BELIEVE THE BENCH OF FRANCE WAS BETTER …THE YOUTH WILL BE TAKING THE FIELD SEPT
6 LET SEE WHAT HAPPENS
ALLEZ LES BLEUS!!!!
CASSER LES RITALS DE MES FESSES

Un Italiano vero,

you’re just talking out of the wrong end.

Everyone knows that the only reason that the Italy / Germany game was ‘open’ is because Germany took the initiative to make it that way. Germany was arguably the most offense-oriented team in the tournament. Had Germany decided to play defence, Italy would have been more than happy to do the same.

The bottom line is that Italy rarely takes the initiative to play an offense-oriented game because they are too afraid to lose. On occasion this strategy works for them, as they are able to bore the other team out of a victory.

Also, Canada is a land immigrants, so it’s not safe to assume that I was born here…although hockey is tied with football (i.e., soccer) as the greatest game in the world.

HERE IN THE US THEY LOVE TO HATE THE FRENCH……
SAT 15 JULY THE BELTWAY BOYS
“FRANCE IS COUNTRY OF LOSERS”
SUN 16 JULY LANCE ARMSTRONG
“ALL FRENCH PLAYERS ARE ASSHOLES”

THESE TWO QUOTE COME FROM AMERICAN ON NATIONAL TV

HOW MANY ITALIAN DIED FOR THE US REVOLUTION…….
HOW MANY FRENCH SOLDIER WERE WITH LAFAYETTE?????
JUST MY OBSERVATION
ALLEZ LES BLEUS

WE ARE JUST TALKING SOCCER HERE NO HISTORY OR ANY OTHER STUPID OVERWROUGHT THEORY.
Italy doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone.
Defense it is part of the game as offense is.
Team with no defense don’t win championships.
Was brasil better than italy in 94′ when we got to the finals with Baggio and Baresi playing on one leg and lost at the penalties?Oh but brasil is a great team, right?
2002 in korea brasil wins over germany in the finals on a miserable penalty kick ! Brasil great team.
2006 WORLD CUP A BUNCH OF GOOD TEAM WENT DOWN BECAUSE OF NO DEFENSE AND NO OFFENCE WHATSOEVER.
iTALY WAS THE BEST TEAM BECAUSE THEY WON!!!
nO GIMMICK THERE.THERE WAS NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO SCORE ON THE ITALIAN OTHER THAN PENALTY( NON EXSISTENT) OR OWN GOAL(BAD LUCK).
a DEFENSIVE STYLE OF PLAY IS STILL A GOOD WAY TO WIN.
mORE TO COME.. SEP 6 AND THE EUROPEAN CUP WILL BE A BREAZE FOR ITALY.

LET’S SEE THE PIECE OF CRAP ULTRAS MAKE THOSE MONKEY CHANTS IN SOUTH AFRICA, OH, WHERE SO LONG AGO, ITALY TALKS OF 1934 AND BACK THEN, THEY WERE GASSING AFRICANS, THEY CHEATED THEN, THEY CHEAT NOW. THEY WON’T EVEN BE IN THE EURO; REVILE AROUND THE WORLD.

De Rossi threw an elbow into the head of Brain McBride for the USA; everyone remembers this, Materazzi did an even worst job to Sorin of Argentina in the Champions League, Can’t tell me these two things are just a coincidence.

..just seems to me like people cannot accept here in this blog the victory of italy…sore losers,,lol to be honest i could care less about that, but i am having fun to read and post something..now hercules? come on…De rossi threw an elbow ..ok so?? it was ejected and suspended for 4 games..he paid for his silly act didnt he? and what does it mean? this is soccer!! it can even get physical and when it gets these things happen..Zidane was an ass because he should have known better than react to ANYTHING another player could have said to him…to be honest i always trusted this group of italian players, and we didnt have Nesta, and Totti wasnt the same, but still i knew this team could have beaten everyone since the start..but hey..it was ranked 13th by fifa,,,even behind who?? USA!! LOLOLOL and other teams like Mexico…give me a break..and nobody gave us a chance, everyone was talking Brasil..germany…holland…argentina etc…IN CULO A TUTTI!!! eh eh eh FORZA ITALIAAAAAAAAAA

Le 6 Septembre 2006
allez les Bleus
casser les ritals de mes fesses
gregory Coupet will show Europe why he is the number one tender.
He should of been between the pipes this WC.
iTALY CAN EAT MORE PASTA BTW PASTA IS FROM CHINA ASK MARCO POLO.
HOW IS THE SCANDAL GOING??
BUYING THE REFS??
OR JUST THE PLAYERS FROM JUVENTUS??
NO COLOR IN THE ITALIAN TEAM///
HISTORY SAYS THEY HAVE A LITTLE COLOR…..THE MOHRS CAME ALL OVER THE PENINSULA…..

Laurent what are you farting about?..you know you should stop smoking that crap because it will kill you ok??? ciao
4 stars on our blue jersey look so nice and neat…forza italiaaaa

I’ve got my ethnic ties, but it is USA always,

But listen, I’m just watching Fox Tv, Italians getting out of Lebonan, all this stuff going on, we get hate ful towards each other, but really, I just say, put things in perspective.

I’ve got my ethnic ties, but on my car and I play soccer and with guys from other countries too, I got USA soccer stickers, so everyone knows where I stand on it.

And not to knock any other team, USA played a clean cup, teams like Japan and Togo too. They are just as much of champions.

It’s nationalism, or it would be the same thing, if one likes the Yankees, Redsox, Cowboys or KC Chiefs.

hey Tom..you right we are just talking and teasing each other like it happens in USA between red sox, yankees atc..i was born in italy but i Have been i usa for years, so what i am saying is that i know that there are way things more serious that this going on in the world and personally I dont hate anyone even in life , never then less because of soccer…but we just like to play around…thats it…ITALIAAAA hmmm those 4 stars are really shining on our blue jersey,,,ciao

What I find ironic is france’s defense for their multicultural team. As you all know, most of the french team derives from Africa, very much the same African teams present in the world cup. It’s no fair to these african nations as they watch their best players proclaim themselves as french, german, english, and dutch in order to advance these western european futboll agenda. Meanwhile ghana and ivory are stuck with second rate players that would have otherwise been substitutes if france didn’t steal these players away from them. In order to patch the situation up, france uses multicultural rhetoric as a way to disguise the corruption they achieved and make the african nations feel as if their national teams are subordinate. France, you are disgusting. I’m glad italy one. The world cup is supposed to be nation verse nation. Italy was a nation. France steals african players to advance their own agenda, meanwhile these african nations can’t even make it out of group stage. France you are disgusting.

I agree with you E…and they keep on criticizing italy for everything, at least we win with all 100% italian players and their hero? zidane? well..he is algerian…shame on you france..now it is time to be quiet and accept the defeat from a real team..ITALIA>>>

..whats amazing is that some time ago there was a huge riot in France from second league citizens like algerians, and others because they are not treated the same way that the real french people are treated, but hey those players like zidane i am sure that they are treated like kings because they could help the nation to win a soccer cup right?

et voila’ oui i am back ..I am the president! stop everyone because these players even tho were born everywhere else in the world but France, are still french citizens! oui mounsier! are you trying to say that we have been using them because otherwise we cant make a decent team? No NO No..oh mercy on France! no mounsier, we love them, they are like me and my wife, French,..i am personally going around africa to recruit new players …we need to make a good team to beat Italie ..oh those italiennes dancing and holding that cup..they still make me cry…but we will raise again with a new team…where is zidane now? well..who cares he is old and cant play anymore..we sent him back to the ghetto oui?? ok..viva le france!!!!

cazzo too late tonight to drag the past out into the light..we are one but not the same..we are italians and you are french..we hold the cup you hold the air..our players have italian names like toni, totti e materazzi , your players dont have even french names…we are better than you ,but you french folks have this crazy idea that you are the best of the world…well..I guess that on july 9th you wernt the best of the world..

‘équipe de France de Fed Cup, l’équivalent féminin de la Coupe Davis, restera, lors de la saison 2006-2007, parmi l’élite du Groupe mondial. Elle est parvenue, dimanche 16 juillet, à battre l’équipe de la République tchèque, par trois victoires à deux. Une défaite dans cette rencontre de barrage aurait condamné les joueuses du capitaine Georges Goven à évoluer en deuxième division.
allez france!

Who are you fooling, the president, soccer is not as big of a sport in France as in Italy; Italy is almost a one sport nation, though you may here of these other sports;

Rugby; didn’t France won 6 nations, Italy was in that tournament too.

World Cup of Basketball; didn’t know, it’s going on right now, in Japan, is this only every 4 years?

How big of a sport it is in Italy, that’s why that scandal is so bad, cause it’s the average fan that gets screwed.

Group D; of the Basketball world cup, has the USA, Italy, Senegal, Puerto Rico, China. They can’t have all the stars there.

all the italians and americans will you please get out from this french blog?? thank you very much..this is our space leave us alone..

no pierrot , I stay here because i like to stay wherever i want i was raised up in a free country, i guess in france you have a different kind of mentality tho…right? why dont you go cry to somewhere else pierrot?

oui mounsier i said and repeat again i am mounsier chirac and my wife is next to me right now even tho she wants to have a turn on the computer…no no my lovely wife..i am #1 here in france! ahhh what a chance we had to bring the cup back to paris but all of those colored players failed ..those are french citizens like me and my wife, now we sent them back in their poor countries because they failed…next team wont fail i am sure because i will use the guilattine ..oui..so allez france,,allez france

I want to thank Italy for their victory, I am from Argentina, sometimes they call Diego a cheat; but he is as pure as the driven snow, watching the Italian team.

thank you manolo, too bad that argentina that actually was playing great football was eliminated by germany. i always looked with interest to argentina because also as you know many italians live there or argentinians whose parents or grandparents were from italy and also because argentina is a real soccer power. thanks again

OK, enough idle jibber jabber,

the real topic is: “How could so much absolutely crappy football be put out by one single team? (i.e., Italy)”

How sad, how very, very sad that Italy were able to bore, cheat and luck their way past each of the teams. It’s incomprehensible, irreconcilable, indefatigable, unconstitutional, illegitimate, unidentifiable, incontenant and reprehensible.

God be praised that every second that ticks by on this green earth is one less second that we have to watch this horendous excuse for good football…where’s the humanity, the common decency, the sense of sport, the vision? Mother of Troy, what an aweful circumstance!!! Let a lightning bolt come down and zap the whole team into a steaming grease spot right on the green turf.

I know an actual lightning strike might sound harsh but it’s really the only solution to this football travesty that is Italy.

yes you right freedom italy was just lucky not to play Canada , thank God we avoided the team CANADA ladies and gentleman otherwise we would still have 3 stars on our jersey..To learn how to play soccer we need to study the tapes of the Canadian national team, all the soccer youngsters teams should watch at least 4 hours a day team Canada , even during these world cup team Canada even tho hasnt reached the final because of bad luck, has showed everyone how the game of soccer has to be played…once again thank god we didnt play them and thanks again Canada to participate at this extraordinary event…

just a point of order to the ‘e’:
most of the french team are born and raised in france, if you’re talking about the contribution from non-mainland france then the french carribean departments are the biggest source of players. If you want to talk about player poaching, the most controversial figure in that respect is David Trezeguet who spent most of his life in Argentina.
Suggesting the french team is mainly african is pretty much like suggesting the american basketball team is truly african rather than american, and if you believe that then maybe you should guy buy a nice white pointed hat and join your bretheren in the KKK.

Un Italiano vero,

to ‘participate’ is all relative.

If you define ‘participating’ as playing cheating, nipple-pinching, mother/sister slurring, racial insulting-style football, then, yes Italy ‘participated.’

If you define it as playing good, honest, down-to-earth, home-grown, cotton-pickin’, really-try-to-score-before-the-other-team does-type football then Italy didn’t participate at all.

I understand as an Italian-Canadian it is hard to admit that the Italian team bites majorly, that they couln’t even really outplay in an HONEST competition the US womenss team. However, it’s just a fact you are going to have to accept…everyone else already has, you don’t want to be out of date do you?

“Un Italiano vero,

to ‘participate’ is all relative.

If you define ‘participating’ as playing cheating, nipple-pinching, mother/sister slurring, racial insulting-style football, then, yes Italy ‘participated.’

If you define it as playing good, honest, down-to-earth, home-grown, cotton-pickin’, really-try-to-score-before-the-other-team does-type football then Italy didn’t participate at all.

I understand as an Italian-Canadian it is hard to admit that the Italian team bites majorly, that they couln’t even really outplay in an HONEST competition the US womenss team. However, it’s just a fact you are going to have to accept…everyone else already has, you don’t want to be out of date do you? ”

I salute your honesty, even more so because you are an Italian. It is not easy to say words of truth.

Stop justifying on the grounds that france had colonies around the world. I’m sick of that BS excuse. There are tons of nations with colonies around the world, yet 90 percent of that french team weren’t even native french. What does that say about france? It says that there is no good french talent, so they have to seek elsewhere.

e, those carribean departments have been a part of france longer than parts of mainland france. Basically your argument is ‘french are white people, there are few whites in the team therefor france is raiding its colonies’ your first hypothesis is clearly false. Go to france and find out for yourself. Alternatively if you want to maintain that only white people should play for france, then like I said the KKK will open its arms to you.

The reality is if you look at the world cup stats italy is the team that committed the less fouls.

is is true that with the next world cup to be played in south africa italy will equal brasil with five world cups?

and is it true that italy will continue his dominance of france and win the euro cup 2008?

The nutcase “nicko” thinks the french team is representative of its population. In other words, 18/23=.78, or 78% of french national team is identified as noneuropean ethnicity. Ethnicity means heritage not citizenship, to nicko the genious. When an american is asked what is their ethnicity, they will not be stupid enough to say american because that’s not what ethnicity means. Go look at wikipedia for the real statistics of france, and I assure you it ain’t no 78% noneuropean ethnicity. That not withstanding, when you go to a nation and select the finest fruit while leaving behind the unsavory, don’t expect what’s left of that nation to advance far in a world championship when its talent has been transferred to another nation. I said it before, and I’ll say it again. When African Allstars (france) competes against what’s left of ghana, who do you think will win?

ok a few points for ‘e’ for clarity
* ‘ethnicity’ is not nationality as you yourself admit, so ethnicity has nothing to do with national sporting team selection. Regardless of their ethnicity, american teams are chosen on the skill of the players, France does the same.
* I repeat, very few players in the French side are of african origin so france did not ’select the finest fruit while leaving behind the unsavory’.
* Incidentally for your argument, Ghana was never a french colony.
* Finally, by your logic France should be the best of Africa, however in the last world cup for example they lost to Senegal.
* The KKK awaits you my ‘ethnically european’ friend.

Apparently, nicko can’t even understand the fundamentals. So I guess I will have to literally spell things out. Ethnicity: “A sense of being different than other groups because of cultural tradition, ancestry, national origin, and history. “, according the dictionary.com. Now let’s invalidate nicko’s second claim. To argue that the french team are not of african origin, would be to deny the existence of racial composition all together. During the course of evolution, as plate tectonics carved our respective continental regions, inhabitants of specific regions developed similar physical traits. Those in cold climates tended to be of a lighter complexion, whereas in sultry climates the reverse was true. Hence, a tradition developed, and culture was thus formed. Now considering that most of the members of the French team don’t share the same tradition, as they themselves or their parents come from foreign lands (hence the reason for the mushrooming distinctive religion faiths in france), we can safely determine they do not share the same ethnicity. You also highlight the relevance of American sports. You have missed the point again. France fancies its football as more than just an average sport. Hence, it’s leagues are well-established and football graces the covers of its major papers in a glamorous tone. Consequently, they seek more bang for the buck. They desire to increase fan basis to gain more money and thus they look abroad. They hunt in nations like Senegal for talent. Once they acquire it, what distinguishes france from other nations is that they don’t want to get rid of it. Suddenly they disguise these players as French by the simple placement of a uniform. Albiet these players could have been on the Senegal national team, suddenly they find themselves as on the French, as the French promise them greater chances of winning big games since they selected the best from each country just like they did during the slave trade. On another note, again you fail to understand the gist, the thesis, the main point when you bring up Ghana. That was what we call an example. I could have easily substituted Senegal or another. Finally, just because labeled France as tantamount as an African all-star team doesn’t mean that they can’t lose to inferior teams. I watched sports upsets all the time. And that’s exactly my point. When Senegal beat france, it was indeed labeled as an upset. Why was it labeled an upset? Because france was believed to have the greater talent than Senegal. And another thing, why does this nut keep referring the KKK? Hello, this is world cup chat. I’m sure the KKK has its own website. Just google it if your so fixated with the KKK.

Big woo, Italy won two of their cups under Mussolini, back in those the world cup was still in formation, the South Americans boycotted one of the world cups, dirty play characterised 1938.

At least Germany has won it’s world cups, post-Mussolini/Hitler.

France’s ‘84 Gold Medal Olympics Soccer Team that won in LA were almost 100 % white.

The place I’ve seen these players coming from for France has mainly been from DR Congo; they don’t ever go to the World Cup. DR Congo is embroiled in a very bad conflict.

DR Congo played a friendly in France and like in the old days when Communist countries’ teams played on free soil, there are defectors. Defecting because of trouble at home.

These nuts do not know anything at all.

Nations of birth of each player on the French team:

France – Thuram

France – Zidane

France – Cisse

France- Chimbonda

France-Trezeguet

France-Sagnol

France-Diarra

France-Givet

France-Barthez

France-Saha

France-Silvestre

France-Henry

France-Wiltford

France-Govou

France-Dhorosoo

Guinea-Malouda

DR Congo- Makalele

France-Gallas

Senegal-Viera

France-Abidal

Cameroon-Boumsong

France-Landreau

Very far from saying this is an African allstar team and at least, in the case of Viera, his family migrated to France when he was 8 years old.

whwn do you think that italy will win is 5th world cup?

When do you think, Brazil will win a 6th World Cup??

Everyone will be out for Italy, cause everyone sees, what cheats they are, betting scandal, Materazzi, why don’t trolls go push their garbage on the Italy board.

nicely put Hercules

I can recommend a nice dry-cleaner for e, seems the rabous bile he’s spewing out might be damaging his lovely white uniform.

clarifications or rather repetitions:
* ethnicity and nationality are distinct entities, most developed nations are to some extent multicultural, France is one such nation.
* on the role of ‘race’, actually studies have shown that there is far less genetic difference between ‘races’ than there are between populations of any single ‘race’. So any suggestion of culture and race being causally connected is incorrect (I take this to be the gist of your ‘plate-techtonics’ argument)
* on the French League, yes this does indeed often import talent from Africa, in fact the success of Senegal and Cote D’Ivoire attests to the benefits to African countries of sending their talent to France where they can get the best training/experience, hopefully one day African nations will provide the same opportunities that European nations do, but currently they do not. This however does not affect the composition of the french national team (see Hercules listing), it may help raise the French standard of play though … but then again England doesn’t seem to benefit from the foreign talent in the EPL so maybe not.
* finally, agreed, Senegal beating France was an upset, Senegal has a population 1/6 of France and a GDP per capita 1/15 that of France (examine the olympic medal tally’s over the years to see the influence of these factors).
* btw have you considered how many of the players in African teams who could have played for France if they chose to? for example Didier Drogba lived in France since he was 5 years old, you will find that France is a net exporter rather than importer of football players.

To all 4 or 5 French fans…I just heard the D&G and Versace are giving a discount on sunglasses to French Soccer fans so as not to be blinded by those FOUR BEAUTIFUL STARS on the AZZURRI.

Life is beautiful.

Guadeloupe – Thuram

Algerian descent – Zidane

Ivorian descent – Cisse

Guadeloupe – Chimbonda

Argentina-Trezeguet

France-Sagnol

Senegalese descent-Diarra

France-Givet

France-Barthez

France-Saha

France-Silvestre

Martiniquis -Henry

France-Wiltford

Beninese descent-Govou

Indian-Dhorosoo

Guinea-Malouda

DR Congo- Makalele

France-Gallas

Senegal-Viera

France-Abidal

Cameroon-Boumsong

France-Landreau

Good bye, Zizou, so long France. Good riddance. You won’t be missed. Zizou has a long story of head butts, having been ejected four times before the infamous clash with Materazzi. And France, which jocularly pardoned its hero for an insult to his sister’s virtue (something all players hear so often they don’t even notice the word any more) has failed to remark that the real reason for such an absurd reaction was Zizou’s loss of control, and the feeling that the game was slipping away, what with Buffon’s sorcery and Materazzi’s provocation.

Good bye to Thierry Henry, who twice faked a fould to get a penalty, against Italy and Spain.

Goodbye to Michel Platini, who stated, the day of the final match, that Italy would beat France in 2030. What he forgot is that Italy has a positive record against all teams in the world, except for Brasil and Korea, and that France beat Italy just once in the World Cup, in France in 1998, but lost to Italy in the World Cup every single other time we met, even in 1938 on French soil.

After the final in 1998, the French were incensed by the attitude of the Brasilians, who arrogantly thought they had won the Cup before playing the final game. Which goes to show that Michel isn’t any better than the Brasilians he criticized so vehemently.

And lastly, farewell, messieur Zidane, your sportsmanship will not be missed.

“And lastly, farewell, messieur Zidane, your sportsmanship will not be missed. ”

Millions of people around the world will most definitely miss his football — which none of your Italian players can ever ever match. They can’t even do half of what he did on the pitch. Doesn’t matter if you can’t stand the idea and want to deny, it’s simply true. His fans will remember him forever and his name will always stand for brilliance and artistry in the game. Zidane will never be forgotten, whereas the Materazzi maggot will be forgotten in no time.

Here’s what goalkeeper Buffon said in the Italian press about Zizou (this is from the Brazilian newspaper Globo, quoting Buffon in an Italian newspaper):

“I know Zizou well. He’s a classy player, a world champion. During the match, he suffered some injuries, he ran the risk of finishing the game before its end because of a shoulder problem, the result was in doubt, he was upset.” Buffon went on to say that Zidane “felt offended, attacked very personally and intimately; he was definitely provoked.”

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Noticia/0 ,,AA1235729-4271,00.html

Has anyone ever denied Zidane was provoked? Mat admitted as much….please stop trying to find excuses for Zidanes actions as they are inexcusable.

4 STARS

“Has anyone ever denied Zidane was provoked? Mat admitted as much….please stop trying to find excuses for Zidanes actions as they are inexcusable.”

As long as you smug Italy fans deep demonizing and trashing him, I’ll keep defending him. You all insist on totally erasing his entire career and life (not just his footballing career, but his dedication to social and charity work for children and the poor, his refusal to embrace the Beckham-style flash and glamour) and reduce it to a second on the pitch (committing an action that is incredibly common in football, unfortunately). You’re all fully capable of still viewing Totti as more than just a player who spit at another player (and you’re right in doing so) but you can’t seem to give Zidane the same slack. If you insist on wiping out Zidane’s humanity and his history and caricaturizing him into a monster, I’ll keep coming back at you with my defense of him. I’ll only stop when you talk about him rationally.

HAHAHHAHHAA…..laff ma ass off!!!! does anyun c sumthin funy bout dis post? i red it from top to bottom, de middle was good yehh

seems to moi like deyrs 2 anastasia an 2 teresa an 2 fabio…from diff cuntries too…LMAO, ima observer yo!!!thought anasatia sposed 2 be from canada.thought teresa spose 2 b from canada. why does fabio ryte 2 himself??? up ther^^^….laff ma ass off, havnt been here in a long time. whoz de smart ass???? i smell a impersonator. im outta here yo!!!!!

You’re all fully capable of still viewing Totti as more than just a player who spit at another player (and you’re right in doing so) but you can’t seem to give Zidane the same slack.
But Totti was like zidane provoked by a game of terrible fouls on him. So he got diqualified paid his prize and no inquiry was started by the fifa like in zidane case.
since his act was so crass somehow platini the great manipulator is trying to buying him a redemption somehow.
I admire zidane but this time he was plenty wrong.
bad times are awaiting France with is retirement.
Italy is a team on his way up and France is probably win again against italy in 2030(in platini words).
Platini by the way is of Italian descent, RIGHT?
That confirms the lack of soccer genes in the gallic world.

Why are there so many French haters on this blog?? The name of this blog is “we’ll meet again”…that day is September 6…so let’s… OK Zidane will not be there…he is still the best of his generation…ask Ronaldo…I hated his reaction ….but thinking about it…my opinion is the guy has everything… won all there was to be won….on his final match he decided that stopping a insult to his family was better than winning….after 110 min of getting step on… pinch on … repeated insults.. he had enough…many of you probably d’ont understand …Family in France comes above all….i dont agree with what he did ….but I understand his values….now that the young players of France, who were there on the bench, should not make the error he made and probably w’ont…all i know is watch out for Ribery…Coupet in the goal will make it tough for the Italians to score…. for he was voted best keeper in Europe…it’s going to be a great match…France in Paris is hard to beat ..even for the world cup Champion …can Italy win Euro08???I doubt it …there is still a scandal over there….Has Italy ever beat Brasil 3-0 playing the last 20 minutes with 10 men on the pitch……. they could not score on France with 10 minute left and a man down…isn’t ironic the French player who missed the PK also plays for juventus ….I’m still wondering about that one…
just an observation
ALLEZ LES BLEUS
CASSER LES RITAL DE MES FESSES

Incase I have been unclear in any of my previous posts let me say this….I think Zidane is one of the best footballers I have seen and though I am an Italian soccer fan was deeply saddened to see him leave the world stage in that manner.

I am equally saddened that he qualified his apology and said that the provoker should be punished. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT HE DID. Mat isnt the antichrist and comments about ZZ momma, sisters and yes even racial comments are no excuse for what he did. It was nothing any player in sports hasn’t heard before in the heat of competition. Correct me if i’m wrong but ZZ has gotten a few red cards in his playing day.

I will remember ZZ as a great footballer but unfortunately what he did to Mat, His Team and footballers around the world will be a part of his legacy.

i cannot wait to see what the fifa inquiry will produce.
Zidane is going to be interviewed on thurday by the fifa, right?
Also i cannot wait for the sep 6 game.
It will be great,great rivalries are good for soccer.

Kassets,

it sounds as though you are saying that it should be OK to say absolutely anything on the pitch?

or do you believe that there should be some kind of limit as to what you can say? If so, what is that limit?

taunting is part of the game ,it is as ols as the game.I believe that zidane just lost it since he started to grasp that france was destined to lose, or better yet, italy to win.
He’s done for the ages.But please don’t put zidane on the same level as maradona pele’ or even the great george best.

“The reality is if you look at the world cup stats italy is the team that committed the less fouls.”

Because Italian soccer players are the best foulers. The see an opponent in a vulnerable body posture and smack them, just like Henry in the 5th minute of the final and Zidane’s shoulder dislocation in the 70th minute.

“is is true that with the next world cup to be played in south africa italy will equal brasil with five world cups?”

You have a chest pincher in Materazzi. Just get a groin pincher and then you will be able to provoke ANY player in the world into a head-but and win another world cup.

“taunting is part of the game ,it is as ols as the game.I believe that zidane just lost it since he started to grasp that france was destined to lose, or better yet, italy to win.
He’s done for the ages.But please don’t put zidane on the same level as maradona pele’ or even the great george best.”

I put Zidane equal to if not above Pele. Pele had a lot of talent around him, unlike Zidane.

Pele calls Zidane “O Maestro” and last year in the Brazilian press he was quoted as saying he thinks Zidane is the best football player in history, period. Zidane was also named best European player in the past 50 years by his fellow footballers and FIFA. (I’m Brazilian by birth and so follow the Brazilian press regularly).

“Platini by the way is of Italian descent, RIGHT?
That confirms the lack of soccer genes in the gallic world.”

See, you Italy fans whine about all the attacks you get about cheating and racism and corruption and then you come back with revolting racist crap like this. By the way dorio, it’s football, not soccer. You’re probably a typical American fan who doesn’t know much about the sport except what he sees in the World Cup. Your kowledge of your own team is probably pretty superficial.

So good footballing is genetic, now? It’s all based on “blood”? So all those good italian players are all pureblood italians, right? So a kid born in italy who’s the son of two non-italian immigrants couldn’t possibly be a good football player? Pretty hateful lowlife racist you are dorio.

And yes laurent, what are all these anti-French bigots doing on this blog? You have nothing else to do with your life other than spew your hatred?

Hey Freedo Fries

I think any comments that are racial or insult someones religion should be out out of bounds and not tolerated at all. The offender should be red carded and sent off the pitch.

But how to police this? One players word over anothers is not enough.

And I am certainly not willing to accept the violence such as zz demostrated. Could you imagine how many headbutts and punches would be thrown around the soccer pitches of the world?

We will find out what was said after ZZ has a chance to testify at Fifa. Mat already made his statement so I am curious to hear what ZZ has to say.

Kasets, finally a post with a good balance.
After having heard Mat, FIFA is going to hear ZZ (who by the way has been less than candid so far, waiting 3 days before making a blurry statement). They may or may not let him keep his prize.

I, for one, am willing to
accept FIFA’s judgement.
But I suspect that if it goes against Zidane, many people here will say that FIFA was intimidated by the Mafia.

Anyway, I am an American of Italian ancestry, and a Francofile to boot. Love France and her culture, even if they often are rude to foreigners.
But when I go there, I wear Italian clothes and speak (try)
French with an Italian accent,
so they are a little more accepting ( but not too much, to tell the truth).
On spt. 6th: Forza Italia!
Allez la France!
Et puis, il on sait que les filles Francaises savent bien faire l’amour…..
Ah, to go
to Paris on 9-6, Italy wins, and then to date a French girl
at night…nothing better

“Because Italian soccer players are the best foulers. The see an opponent in a vulnerable body posture and smack them, just like Henry in the 5th minute of the final and Zidane’s shoulder dislocation in the 70th minute.”

This is crazy that someone could go on to say that italian defenders or italian players in general fouls so hard to intentionally harm an opponent.
Football (or soccer)is a game of constant collision where you cannot possibly control the full effect of the colliding motions.
In other words when you go in to a tackle or jump for a nheader you don’t really know the consequences of the impact.
Anyone that has played a little football knows it.
Therefore most of the accidents on a soccer field are purely just that , an accident(zidane shoulder dislocation?)

Faites feux aux cannons, tuer moi tout ce qui bouge.

Is this the new mantra in France? Is an Arab allowed to have a job higher than fruitstand owner these days?

All this Anti-Italian and Anti-French stuff is ridiculous, lets all have a good time and enjoy a nice bit of Lambec with a pleasant dish of Lasagna.

The Brazilian (and other Latin) press is far less hysterical about all this than the anglo/western world, which is so full of sanctimonious shock and moral outrage. Here’s an article (one of many in the Latin press) in the Folha de Sao Paulo (one of Brazil’s largest dailies). I’m Brazilian, so I can translate (tho it’s a quick, loose translation):

LIKE ZIDANE, MARADONA AND PELE ALSO COMMITTED ASSAULTS [ON THE PITCH AT THE WORLD CUP]

In 1970, at the World Cup in Mexico, Pelé launched a sharp assault at the Uruguayan Matosas in a move near to lateral line. Except that the Brazilian was more subtle than Zidane. On top of the attack not being noticed, [Pele] even earned a foul in his favor.

If Pele had been punished with a red card, he would have been out of the game against Italy in the final match in which Brazil won 4-1, with one of the goals made by him.

At the World Cup in spain in 1982, another #10 shirt lost his head.

In the game in which Brazil beat Argentina 3-1, when the match was almost finished, Maradona smashed his studs at the stomach of the forward Batista. So at the age of 21, the Argentine star received a red card in his last game at that World one, defeated by Italy.

Now at the World Cup of 94, it was the turn of the leftback Leonardo. He assaulted Tab Ramos, in the Brazilian victory 1-0 in the quarterfinals. Expelled from the pitch, he never appeared at the World Cup again.

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/ult92u105785.shtml

Oh, and by the way, neither Pele nor Maradona apologized.

I guess Zidane’s crime was being too forthright in his anger and not being sneaky enuf to get even with Materazzi by trying to get a violent foul past the referee.

ZZisKing

the FIFA are conducting an inquest on the incident.

Mat was questioned already, and soon they’ll interview ZZ.

Are you willing to accept FIFA’s conclusions?
I think most people are.

Dominick, it doesn’t really matter whether or not I can “accept” FIFA’s conclusions. Nothing I can do about it, can I? Here’s what I know will happen: Materazzi will not be disciplined because verbal abuse on the pitch just isn’t something FIFA can start regulating. I wish it were otherwise but I’m fully aware of the practicalities here.

And some sort of symbolic punishment will be issued against Zidane — I don’t know if they can strip away the Golden Ball from him since they themselves said that’s a prize they have limited control over (voted on by journalists) but I tend to think they’ll figure out a way to do it. Either that or some other symbolic punishment.

I’m not waiting with baited breath about FIFA’s conclusions because I know Zidane will be sanctioned, period. And all the gloating italians and France-haters and those who take so much pleasure in feeding off the professional carcass of a great player will have more opportunity to gloat, be smug and arrogant and sanctimonious, pontificate and sermonize and lecture, spew insults and feel good about their petty self-righteous selves.

They’re certainly not real football fans. Real football fans (like the professional footballers of the world, the coaches, lots of veteran football pundits) won’t forget the greatness of Zidane-the-player. They may condemn the headbutt but neither do they reduce the man’s entire career and life to one mistake, however big it was. They just wish he hadn’t done what he did and feel badly for him that he ended his career like that, end of story.

here it is.
Zidane is dead and buried and the wind will blow away is miserable football ashes.
Not quite like that!
I think that his legacy as a player will remain and only prudish people will think of him as a disgrace.
He’s given football plenty of exciting moments.
The problem is that all the poor frenchies are building this “victimization of zidane”,that is quite funny to watch.
The poor thing, his sensitive soul was so upset by some outrageous words by materazzi than he lost all his restraint and acted like a caveman.
But,alas,he is not the one deserving punishment, but the vile instigator,whose evil machination deprived Zidane of his Olympic stature and Frence of the Cup.
I think that Zidane doesn’t care a bit and must be laughing is way to retirement.

Although I am an Azzurri fan (half Italian heritage) and enjoyed the WC I was very sorry to see Zindane go off like he did. I hope tomorrow (Thursday) we know more about what happened after FIFA announces their verdict…looking forward to Euro 2008, damn! gotta wait 2 years! I have TWO sweet victories now..(my other half is Greek heritage!)…FORZA ITALIA>..ZITO ELLAS! ..BEST OF BOTH!

zz is King.

Many of the journalists that voted for Zidane (and Cannavaro) left when their countries were eliminated, that is, before the WC ended.

But the end, at the final game, Zidane made a bad mistake, while Cannavaro continued to be the best defender of the tournament.

In my opinion, Cannavaro deserves the Gold Ball.

That said, I admire Zidane as one of the greatest footballers ever, and I think he is a very good person on spite of his mistake.

If FIFA strips him of his Gold ball, they should find a way to honor him for is wonderful career.

You’re nothing but a harrassing so and so loser Dummio; with nothing worth more than filth, like you are, to tell anyone.

On July 9th, billions watched as one of the world’s most famous and talented athletes took justice into his own hands (in truth, he took it head on). He behaved with violence instead of the grace and class he has become known for and though both the head-butter and head-butted have spoken publicly, their explanations feel incomplete. The issue has been addressed in sports metaphor language, in the predictable “men are just dumb animals” way, and in language I’ve not heard since third grade: “He started it!” But the empty feeling remains because the real explanation for this strange behaviour transcends the realms of sport, gender and maturity entirely.
The thing here is, when a very famous man smashes his head into someone’s chest on an international stage, for billions to watch, the question must be raised as to whether his actions are influencing our future behaviour as a society or simply magnifying the state of it at present.
Don’t worry, while there Inevitably will be a small copycat effect, your local hospital is not about to be overrun with children bearing gigantic chest bruises. Just as you don’t often bump into someone missing half an ear as collateral damage from another athlete’s complete mental breakdown a few years back.
The deeper, more difficult explanation for Zinedine Zidane’s brain burp on Sunday is that his reaction stands as a very real example of the feeling of helplessness and injustice many people (particularly young members of ethnic minorities) feel today: This world is not a fair place and if you want justice done, you’re going to have to do it yourself.
The question of why he reacted so poorly in the face of so much incentive to react with restraint (there is not a French Football fan alive that does not believe that the result would have been different had Zidane stayed on the pitch) will not be answered by revealing the specific words which may have provoked his reaction. For future reference though, while some lip readers recently guessed it was: “you are the son of a terrorist whore”, others opined that Marco Materazzi may have actually mentioned something about a hamster. Just to be safe, both should be noted as dangerous subjects to embark upon while conversing with professional footballers. Consider yourself warned.
When words have no real power, when even well thought out, eloquently stated concerns are not addressed unless employed by the socially or economically empowered, the ignored are often frustrated into taking action in ways which are extreme, and often violent. It should not come as news that young people are particularly susceptible to being lured into causes which they are convinced will finally offer them some opportunity to be heard.
Here’s the rub: Zidane is not a member of a group of people without power; not any more. His immigrant kid struggling out of the ghetto, rags to riches story is legendary and has stood as a positive example for many. Today though, he is a rich and powerful man, surrounded by many ears eager for his voice. He did have an option, one many others in similar situations do not often have. Or did he?
We can assume that what Materazzi said to Zidane on Sunday was tinged with racial and familial insults (not discounting the possibility that the cherished Zidane family pet is a cuddly rodent, of course) and these are painful words for someone proud and protective of his family and race, even more so to someone whose uphill struggle has been very steep due to those very prejudices. If Zidane had ignored Materazzi and later reported him to the proper high-ups, would he have been satisfied with the reaction? Probably not.
The possibility that Zidane would simply have been labeled a sore loser is very real but ignoring that ugly hypothetical twist, this imaginary scenario is rather well mapped out historically. We all know that not much would have happened to Materazzi; a slap on the wrist, a hero’s welcome back home (had the Italians still been victorious) and perhaps some “sensitivity training.”
Zidane reacted as one who’s honour, religion and family had been injured but also as one who understood that he would be swallowing it all unless he did something about it himself. They are just words but as he said himself in his public explanation “Sometimes words are harder than blows”.
If the world were a place where prejudice was appropriately punished, even if that meant just some good old social rejection, then Zidane may have chosen to simply walk away and later out his tormentor for the complete ass he is. But when a man in his position feels helpless to follow decent and appropriate avenues for resolution, how can we expect people with even fewer resources to make better choices?
Zidane has accepted his punishment and will continue to do so if more is to come. He may have to endure the removal of his award for player of the tournament, fines and possibly bans from future matches (which, as he has retired, would only affect him if he decides to coach). These punishments are appropriate for his violence, but what of the greater issue here, the one that FIFA spent the entire World Cup passionately denouncing? A few days before the World Cup started, Sepp Blatter, President of FIFA, stated: “Racism is society’s problem, and not a problem typical of football,… But we must ensure our sport isn’t destroyed by racism from within. The foundation is respect for every participant.” Portentous words.
During the tournament, the captain of each team read out a statement against prejudice before each match and the team photos were taken behind a banner reading “Say no to racism”.
Marco Materazzi is being investigated for his part in the incident. If he is found to be guilty of racial or religious slurs, FIFA must take an inspired leap and show that words can indeed be more powerful than blows and stand behind their own strong statements. The only true resolution to this matter will be to show that had Zidane behaved with class, and indeed faith, his rights would have been supported appropriately: FIFA should ban Materazzi from international football for at least a year.

amen

Rob:

There were plenty of late goals, Germany vs. Poland, Italy vs. Germany, Sweden vs. England, Australia vs. Japan;

I read one columnist that said he thought France would have won.

As for me, it is as much of a mystery, as the inflammatory words that were supposedly said.

But wanted to make it clear, that those who say things probably would not changed; is not accepted across the board.

attaileDuMontSaintJea :

No one comes here to eat your “merde” you stalkers, leave people alone, culero! and give there family and wages back, you POS!

Sorry, Dario is the POS molesting merde here

Dummio Dario is a piece of crap like father altier and lino gully, stalking crap; and they can have their ugly women

Dummio Dario Crap, is just one more cheating italian like ivan basso or materrazzi, molesting crapper, writing that crap, little message, bore;l

Now, the piece of sh-t Dario has run off; as-wipes like this should be head butted.

At UNM, that was criminal harrassment, the church ought to be disrupted, for the sh-tting that ’s gone on in it, that italian woman at the y should be checked for criminal harrassment,

this italian idiot has been stalking someone, doesn’t say sh-t, clearly from the sh-t of his statements, this dummio piece of sh-t is sending out more messages,

Our women are ugly, our cyclists use dope, our team cheats.

Rob, FIFA does conclude its investigation today.
Do you think they will be fair?
And if not, why not?

And the true story in this case is ” Verba volant, facta manent”
This is a norm of law all over the world.It means that words fly, but facts stay.
It means that it’s impossible to reconstruct what was said, the circumstances, the tone of voice etc.

But the fact remains. And probably Zidane snapped a few minutes before, when his beautiful header just under the cross bar,the goal almost sure, was avoided by a brilliant save of Buffon.

Your very long post concluded that Mat should be banned for one year, because he said something you don’t even know.

“The nightingale kept in a cage,
doesn’t sing for love, it sings for rage”

Rob, stay cool in Canada

Dominick,

The point was not punishing someone for something I didn’t know about, the point was to actually focus any potential punishment towards solving a real problem. Head-butting in football is not exactly a major issue.

The result is out: three games for Zizou, two for Materazzi. Plus fines equivalent to hitting me up for a nickel.

I don’t know if this is fair. I do know that it accomplishes nothing.

PS. Sorry for the length of the last post, thanks to those who made it all the way through.

Fifa is going to be very busy after this ruling on the Mat and ZZ issue.

Giving Mat a suspension for verbal provocation of ZZ sets a new precedent and will make the lawyers very happy. I knew i should have went into law. Now every time a red card is issued there will be a built in excuse of provocation.

I also think a blog should be started so the many people who posted that Mat is a racist can now apologise to him.

This is a quote from Fifa website with regards to the comments made by Mat

In their statements, both players stressed that Materazzi’s comments had been defamatory but NOT of a racist nature.

hi everybody,

Hey, DARIO, you said “2002 in korea brasil wins over germany in the finals on a miserable penalty kick !”

I know now that you have NO knowledge of lately football’events and don’t ask me why. So I don’t want speak with you about football of the 1990’s or 80’s.

Learn a bit my friend.

Hey people,

Watch this video… Aaamazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hoNcOa3HkA&mode=related&search=Ribery

What Zidane did was not right:

- Against the rules. (He should
have known.)

- Mortal blow to his team.
(He should have known.)

What Materazzi did was not right:

- Against the rules. (he should
have known.)

- Infamous blow to any concept
of fairness. (He should have
known – but then again: He’s
Italian.)

Zidane will be rememered for decades – for good or bad: I dare say 90 % for good.

After decades, people will say: ” What kind of razzi ?”

Answer: Well, some of those Italians.

Langsam_Leute

Again the Teutonic rage.
The German wolf accepts to be bitten by a watchdog, but it’s mortified to be bitten by whar they think is a lamb.

—-We beat the stuffing out of you 4-1 in a friendly just a few weeks ago:

—-In World CUps we are ahead 4-0-2;

—-We beat you 2-0 and hit qa post and a crossbar in this WC;

—-and you say we beat you all these times by cheating and unfairness?

To Langsam_Leute:

Righto !

Die Italiener lernen halt ein bisschen langsamer. Sie sind ja oft ganz nett. Die Kellner! Die Hoteliers! Oder die F-1-Fans, wenn unser Schumi mal wieder die rote Problemkarosse als erster über die Ziellinie geführt hat.

Man muss sie vertehen. Große Bambini eben. Man muss ihnen Zeit geben.

Sagen wir – noch 99 Jahre ?

Dr. Kaiser is understanding. We are nice waiters and hotel keepers. And you could have added pizza deliverers, barbers and organ grinders, like Der Spiegel and Herr Beckenbauer have said.

Another example of Teutonic civility, making fun of humble people who must earn a living
working at low-paying jobs.

But those days are over, Herr Kaiser. You look at the statistics and you’ll learn that the average income of Italians is almost up to a par with that of France and Great Britain.

And the waiters and hotelkeepers have once more kicked the derriere of the Herrenvolk.

And Schumacher rides a Ferrari because he knows a winner when he sees one.

And please speak French or English in this board, don’t hide behind your German.

For Herr Doctor Kaiser’sinformation:

Income per individual in 2005:

France $ 29,900
Great Britain $ 30,300
Italy $ 29,200

Enjoy keep talking about us being waiters and pizza deliverers, Mr. Kaiser. It won’t be for long.

“Fifa is going to be very busy after this ruling on the Mat and ZZ issue.

Giving Mat a suspension for verbal provocation of ZZ sets a new precedent and will make the lawyers very happy. I knew i should have went into law. Now every time a red card is issued there will be a built in excuse of provocation.”

I don’t think so. It is a special case for two reasons :
1) Zidane is an all time great along with Pele and Maradona. A player of such clibre will not appear for another 10-20 years. Superstars get “special treatment” in every sport e.g Jordan in NBA.
2) In this case prvocation was preceded by a chest pinch. Only Materazzi could do something like this.

hey everybody come to the Italy soccer page and go to the topic ” Veni Vidi Vici” they are all dissin zidane. I am dissing Italy at the moment. Come help me.

To Dominick:

Do not Take Dr. Kaiser and Langsam_Leute too seriosly.
I think they are both more of a teaser than a sadist or so. Definitely no Nazis or anything of that sort.

Permit me a few ( humble !)objections :

- the 4:1 friendly was a 4:1 all right. A “hammer”, no doubt.
But one sould not totally ignore the context: The Germany team was still in a shaky experimental phase. New players and set-ups for quite a while. Look how they developed.
Watch them in two years. This time they were just a bit too inexperienced yet.

- I honestly (no irony!) do not understand what you are trying to say with “In World Cups we are ahead 4-0-2″ ? Goals? Ranks?
(Germany: 3 x 1st, 3 x 2nd including Wembley ‘66 ( ,
so six times in finals,
1 x 3rd , 1 x 4th – eight times in semi-finals). (Germany was not allowed to participate in ‘50.)

Finally:

- Do you really and honestly feel good about Materazzi ? Don’t you think it must have been so Jago-like outrageous and heinously tricky what he did to Zizou that the guy,asa
M A N O F H O N O U R had to lose control – as intended?Materazzi did Italy a big favour. His ignominity, however, did Italy far more harm. “Materazzi” will become
a dirty word just like “the hand of God” .

- Do you deny France were, consequently, robbed of their keystone in a phase of the match
they had almost ad lib control of Italy?

Whatever! Italy won the Cup.

In ‘74 Germany won the Cup.
In ‘74 the Dutch were the better team.

In ‘06 Italy won the Cup.
In ‘06 France were the better team.

Good night, and good luck.

I cant imagine why France would be looking forward to playing Italy again? The future looks bleak for them with retirements of the big stars….whereas few countries continually produce quality players such as Italy.

Dominick:

Why do you dare demand, exclusively so, comments to be posted in either English or French?

I have read so many posts on so many blogs in languages other than English or French, especially Italian and Spanish.

You do not seem to know that German is a world language (rank 10 if I am not mistaken)spoken by far more people than by people speaking French.

MEHR RESPEKT BITTE – und vor allem: Wissen vor Quatschen …

Bistaganzascheensoschlochmailiabadasidasgonedsongkonwiavuiabaschosomilöextamaschhallelluja.Debbdebbad a.

O K A Y – this is not the Navajo code but intelligible only for an exquisite part of Germanophones – it’s
B a v a r i a n dialect just for the heck of it.

Actually – B a v a r i a : I think along with southern France Bavaria is just about the most potent and exciting region in all of western Europe.

So : A time – any time – to make friends – way beyond the football super event !

“Do you really and honestly feel good about Materazzi ? Don’t you think it must have been so Jago-like outrageous and heinously tricky what he did to Zizou that the guy,asa
M A N O F H O N O U R had to lose control – as intended?Materazzi did Italy a big favour. His ignominity, however, did Italy far more harm. “Materazzi” will become
a dirty word just like “the hand of God” .
To whom ever wrote that:
if you ever played any competitive sport you know that it is part of the game to get on other players nerves!It is not done maliciously so to obtaine any immediate tangible advantage other than to mess with the adversary ’s head and make him unfocused.
It is a facet of the game as hitting a corner kick.
These are tension releasing acts and real acrimony last between players at the end of the game.
Materazzi is a guy that is quite pleasant outside of the pitch and can be overly aggressive during games.And so Zidane, he is no angel.
What it did has no excuses, totally out of proportion, like, you may agree with me, Israel’s reaction to the hezbollah action in Lebanon.
Why do we have to punish materazzi and make him a villain, when the real villan in this episode was ZZ?

Kassets,

France has one of the best training camps in Europe, most of the best clubs come to France to buyout young players, that is partly why French National team has been performing quiet well throughout the last decade…
1998 World Champion
2000 Euro Champion (the only nation so far winning WC and Euro in a row)
2002 a flop as the exception…
2004 quarter final
2006 WC runner up

I don t think there’s any equivalent in Europe for that period of time.

There are many retirements for sure, among which Zidane’s one, but many players are coming up… Ribery being one of them… Now look at all the greatest clubs in Europe you’ll always find at least one or two french players…

I don t see the future as gloomy as you may do… I am rather upbeat.

Kant (emmanuel?),

Guten Tag

You are right about German language ranking “slightly” ahead as regard to native speakers since German population is greater…

But overall French is far more widespread than German. Here are the stats including primary and secondary speakers:

1/ Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
2/ English (480 million)
3/ Spanish (320 million)
4/ Russian (285 million)
5/ French (265 million)
6/ Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
7/ Arabic (221 million)
8/ Portuguese (188 million)
9/ Bengali (185 million)
10/ Japanese (133 million)
11/ German (109 million)

Just my 2 cents…

Marc Dorcel (etc.):

You are right; of course the overall amount of people speaking, primarily plus secondarily, is what matters more.
Has a bit to do with the fact that we lost our colonies after WW I – thank God ! I hasten to emphasize.
On the other hand, otherwise we would have a similar reservoir of coloured top athletes Please: no harm intended !

By the Way, KANT yes, only spelt “Immanuel”.
But don’t tell anybody

Watch Zidane calling referee Larionda “hijo de puta!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlnmGpGtn4&search=zidane%20puta

Hey Leon, can u read on lips or do you have above average listening skills?

Stop the calumny please… And you don t want to fall into that kind of silly game, cause you would certainly lose.

Oh! stop the calumny?You mean what the French media and tabloids have done so far with Materazzi?

Leon, it’s not materazzi it’s maternazi

Kant, Immanuel- many High School students, me included, disliked the guy….too complicated.

In all friendship, your “Critique of the Pure Reason” is not taking in consideration a few facts:

- First off, I’m the first to recognize the great importance of the German language, not only
because of the number of speakers, but also because of the tremendous contributions
in all fields made by Germany in science, art etc.

-But the fact is that both Langsam and I were talking, (or rather fighting) in English, and
also that we were in a French blog. So there was no reason to break into the conversation in German.
Mr. Kaiser (from the Latin Caesar) did it to again insult the Italians (waiters! hotel keepers! cheaters!)in the way that the German press, sport personalities, and bloggers here
have done for a long time, even before Grosso and Del Piero offered you 2 pizzas you couldn’t digest.

As for the Bavaria and the French Riviera, I have been there and loved them both.

But I suggest that sometimes you
follow the footsteps of many of you countrymen, from Durer to Wagner, Nietzsche, Einstein and
many other: visit Italy also sometimes. You’ll find many interesting, instructive and beautiful places there.

And yes, of course we can be friends. After all, rivalry and bragging rights are part of the
love we all have for football.
But it should never degenerate in insulting and violence.
Auf wiedersehn at the European Championship! And the Champions League and whatever else

Wahrheit?
Hello there. I’ll answer your points in the same order you posted them.
—I also like to believe that
Langsam and Kaiser wrote in good friendly fun, just to tease. So let’s forget about it and shake hands.

—The German national team has done wonders, thanks to Klinsmann who has led his young players to have confidence in themselves when few people thought they were too inexperienced. The game with Italy was the best of all tournament for both teams. The only one to disappoint was Ballack…but hey, he had to deal with the Italian defense!
But Germany will have a very strong team in the future.

—By 4-0-2 I meant that in the games between Italy and Germany in all World cups, Italy has won 4 (3?) tied 2, and lost none.

—If it is true tha Mat said he did not want to take off ZZ’s shirt, but the shirt of his wife, then Zidane’s reaction was justified.
But he himself is not a saint, with 14 expulsions in his career.
Also, to say that it was a trick to eliminate Zidane from the match does not make sense.
They would have planned it for early in the game, not at the 110′ minute.

—You say that France was the better team. I say that Italy was the better team in the first half, france in the second half.

Some people here have said that Zidane will go down in History
at the same level as Pele’ (1960’s) and Maradona (1970’s).

If we go that far back, then I suggest that equal or better than ZZ were the following:
Brazil: Pele’ and 5-6 others;
Argentina: Maradona, Di Stefano and 3-4 others;
Germany:Gerd Muller,1-2 others.
England:Best,Matthews, others.
Holland: Cruyff, 2-3 others.
Portugal: Eusebio.
Hungary: Puskaas,1-2 others.

Let’s say it, in the past 3 years ZZ hasn’t done much for either France or Real Madrid.

Great player, but no way a superstar at the level of those mentioned above.

I forgot Platini of France

http://www.westendchronicle.com/article-26068-Zidane-is-an-embarrassment-to-sports.html

Actually, Pele himself calls Zidane “maestro” and most professional footballers of the world consider him the world’s best player during his career.

zidaneisking,

Just an interesting point…

Since your going to quote Pele….Prior to Totti breaking his ankle just before the world cup Pele called him the “King of Soccer”

I had to head but him he said that my mom was fat.

Zinaden Zidane…oh I didn’t know he used such harsh words….then you had no choice ZZ..you had to defend the family honour at all costs.

My Apologies

“Great player, but no way a superstar at the level of those mentioned above.”

Give me a break. What are the membership requirements for this club?

Look at the post a few above you:

1998 World Champion
2000 Euro Champion (the only nation so far winning WC and Euro in a row)
2002 a flop as the exception…
2004 quarter final
2006 WC runner up

What has he done in the last three years? See above again. Who do you think was leading this team?
Zidane always falls behind in the “who’s the best” argument simply because he is not a striker. There has never been a better passer, and I have never seen anyone (well maybe that Brazilian dude with the crazy legs-Garrincha?) control the ball like Zidane.
While Pele, Maradona and others could change a game with an insane goal, Zidane altered the outcomes of the matches by simply dominating huge areas of the pitch for the entire match. I would take him over any of those guys because he created goals for whoever happened to be playing in front of him.

viva la france!!

of course, zidane’s playing style differs from the others because he is much more of a playmaker than a striker. if you know football then you would know that goals are not the only thing that matter. its the play, how it is set up and executed. which is exactly why pele referred to zidane as “maestro”. what does a “maestro” do? a maestro creates. this is what zidane did for real madrid and france. he created lovely plays from his great ability to control the ball. enough said

rob and carl and pele ….your wrong.

will have to explain why later (cant now) but just so im clear your wrong

“While Pele, Maradona and others could change a game with an insane goal, Zidane altered the outcomes of the matches by simply dominating huge areas of the pitch for the entire match. I would take him over any of those guys because he created goals for whoever happened to be playing in front of him. ”

Very good, Rob, you said it well. Have to keep your post on file. And yes, it was Garrincha you meant (you spelled it right too, not everyone does). In Brazil he’s considered one of the greatest ever who gets far too little recognition. Interestingly, he ended his carrer in ignominy, far far worse than anything Zizou is supposed to have done. He was an alcoholic, wife batterer, gambler, killed his mother-in-law in a car accident while drunk, and ended up penniless, dying in a Rio hospital. None of that stains his reputation has a football great.

I heard Zidane is a fudge packer. Is this true. Hey Marc Dorcel you must know since you pack the fudge daily.

Leon: good video, it looks like zidane called the ref’s mother a terrorist and said he wanted to take off his son’s pants and have his way with him. 10 lip readers from my family can’t be wrong. I think zidane should get another match ban for provoking the ref, I think if the ref headbutt him in the groin I would forgive him.
Vive les blows

zidaneisgay

I heard the same thing…..good post

vive les blows (I love that)

ERIC FROM THE STATES THATS A TYPICAL AMERICAN STUPID COMMENT YOU MADE MATE, NOT BAD FROM THE MOST HATED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD

Rob, these are the best world players of last century:

World Team
GK Lev Yashin, Soviet Union
D Carlos Alberto, Brazil
D Franz Beckenbauer,Germany
D Bobby Moore, England
D Nilton Santos, Brazil
MF Johan Cruyff, Netherlands
MF Alfredo DiStefano, Argentina
MF Michel Platini, France
F Pele, Brazil
F Garrincha, Brazil
F Diego Maradona, Argentina

European Team
GK Lev Yashin, Soviet Union
D Paolo Maldini, Italy
D Franz Beckenbauer, Germany
D Bobby Moore, England
D Franco Baresi, Italy
MF Johan Cruyff, Netherlands
MF Eusebio, Portugal
MF Michel Platini, France
F Ferenc Puskas, Hungary
F Bobby Charlton, England
F Marco Van Basten, Netherlands

South American Team
GK Ubaldo Fillol, Argentina
D Carlos Alberto, Brazil
D Elias Figueroa, Chile
D Daniel Passarella, Argentina
D Nilton Santos, Brazil
MF Didi, Brazil
MF Alfredo DiStefano, Argentina
MF Rivelino, Brazil
F Pele, Brazil
F Garrincha, Brazil
F Diego Maradona, Argentina.

This was the list made by 250 journalists worldwide in 1998.
If ZZ is even with Pele’and Maradona, you must discard all the others.

Dominick, the list you just provided us with proves that you’re incredibly dum. That list comes from 1998, as you say. Using that list to prove your point is like using a survey of 250 journalists two years after 1958 (when Pele burst on the international scene and won the World Cup) naming the century’s best players. I can guarantee you that none of them or very very few of them would’ve put Pele on that list. He would still not be considered “legendary” enough to be on such a list in 1960. Look at the age of all those players and the period they played. Get a freaking clue.

1998 was still fairly early in Zizou’s international career. No journalist in 1998 would’ve named Zizou one of “the greatest players of the century” Zizou was still young and still building his career. This is a no-brainer.

And apparently you have no knowledge of the accumulation of these basic facts:

* Zizou was elected FIFA World Player of the Year a record-equalling three times (1998, 2000, 2003)

* He was elected European Footballer of the Year once (1998)

* In 2004, Zidane was included in the FIFA 100, a list of the 125 greatest living footballers.

* He was instrumental in his teams winning the FIFA World Cup, European Championship, UEFA Champions League, and domestic championships in Italy and Spain.

Pele calls him “maestro,” Maradona’s been quoted as saying “when he plays, I can’t breathe”, Platini and Beckenbauer (and countless other veteran and professional footballers and coaches and pundits) consider him the greatest footballer of his generation, period.

So just knock it off and quit the denial fest. There’s simply no doubt whatsoever that in 10-30 years time, Zidane will be on the list of the greatest footballers in history. That’s how long it takes for these things to be realized. Why you and so many others have this petty irrational hatred of Zidane says more about you than him.

“Using that list to prove your point is like using a survey of 250 journalists two years after 1958 (when Pele burst on the international scene and won the World Cup) naming the century’s best players.”

Oops, I made a mistake there. I meant to say:

Using that list to prove your point is like using a survey of 250 journalists in 1958 (the year Pele burst on the international scene and won the World Cup) naming the century’s best players. Which journalists of 1958 would name Pele as one of “the greatest football players in the last century” Dominick?

Unbelievable twits, these Zidane haters.

italy can’t win a match without faking a dive or bloodying or provoking a player with insults — they couldn’t win otherwise.

gutless americans can only invade military midgets–not military equals–and they can’t even destroy a bunch of crazy muslim terrorists whose only weapons are homemade rockets.

Pussies, all of them.

Zid, I said very clearly that the list was compiled in 1998,
and included players of last century.

However, the 1998 date does not matter….you compared ZZ to the 2 best players of all time, whose prime was in the 60’s and 70’s. Do you understand the point?
So my list is valid.

And since you said that ZZ was equal to the two all-time greatest, Pele’ and Maradona,
who were strikers,while ZZ was an MF, so I included players in
all positions.

But if you want to limit yourself to midfielders, tell me if you think ZZ was better than Di Stefano, Cruyff and Platini.

The 2004 FIFA list you mention was just political, like most of what FIFA does. It includes many nobodies.

Dominick,
a few hundred independent journalists also gave Zizou the golden ball. Guess that’s just political. That’s your answer to everything. If Zizou gets an award, it’s political. Anyone else gets an award, it’s credible. Hypocrisy and double standards, anyone?

But if you want to limit yourself to midfielders, tell me if you think ZZ was better than Di Stefano, Cruyff and Platini.

Good question…….still haven’t heard and ansewer.

casette,your a bore

Steve my mom say’s “im special”.

he headbutt mats in the field-so he’s wrong, leave at tht.

he fight for his family honour,his right-no argue(shame who argue wth this).
leave at tht.

he’s a remarkable soccer player-no argue.
leave at tht.

italy deserve a world cup-they are the winner,no argue.
leave at tht.

i wonder why peoples still keep denying his achievements in his life.use a youtube,metacafe or buy any compilation of zidane. he’s great, not greedy in the field.research first,before making false assumptions; and about best world player-wait at least another 10 yrs bfore critizes him.

rihas, thanks for your rational contribution. It’s sobering. And thanks for this: “i wonder why peoples still keep denying his achievements in his life.use a youtube,metacafe or buy any compilation of zidane. he’s great, not greedy in the field.research first,before making false assumptions; and about best world player-wait at least another 10 yrs bfore critizes him. ”

There’s been so much hysteria on all sides, fixating on what is actually a very common feature of football: fighting, acts of violence, etc. Why Zizou gets singled out for this, I don’t know.

zidaneisking wrote:
“There’s been so much hysteria on all sides, fixating on what is actually a very common feature of football: fighting, acts of violence, etc. Why Zizou gets singled out for this, I don’t know.”

If you say that fighting and violence are common to footbal than you must also say that so is insulting and provocation which is actually more common. So I really don’t understand what you’re getting at: Are you saying that Zidane is getting the worst of the bad publicity? Are you saying that it’s more reasonable to assault another player than it is to insult him? I think everybody should treat this as an isolated incident and stop bringing up things that happened in the past. Both players got punished, one for assault and one for provocation. However, I really don’t think FIFA will ever suspend another player for provocation ever again, this was a special case involving one Zidane. This is the only reason FIFA went to this extreme. So I think Zidane has been treated well. He pretty much gotten away with what he did. It’s the equivalent of telling a convicted criminal pay the judge two dollars, babysit his kids for three days and be on your way. Don’t cry for Zidane, he is being protected and praised for his actions, C’est la vie.

zidane,

Thanks for your rational contribution. It’s sobering.

You are absolutely right that FIFA wil NEVER suspend someone for words said on the pitch again. There decision was absurd as noted in every major football publication and anyone with just some common sense.

Peace

zidane,
I am saying that he is being singled out in the world criticism on blogs, by pundits, etc. for one violent act. Tell me, out of all the violent acts in all of football that have occurred in, say, the last 50 years, how many (at least in football) have attracted this much attention, this much fixation, this much hysteria? Yes he got treated well by FIFA, I agree entirely. Not much they can do since he’s retiring. And frankly I wish that part of his “atonement” hadn’t been just an official 3 days with FIFA’s humanitarian work (actually he has been and will be doing much more). My point is that had all of this occurred in, say, 1982 or 1970 or any other past World Cup, the attention to the headbutt would not have been so intense. But globalized media and the internet have made us all focus so intensely on a single act that is not unique.

This sort of violence goes on the pitch all the time, but this one player at this one time is the subject of so much vitriol and condemnation by sports pundits around the globe, by pundits in countries where football isn’t even a popular sport. It’s as if Zizou is uniquely violent. Was Pele remembered for bloodying an opponent at the World Cup in 1962? No, because a couple of billion people weren’t watching and they weren’t all connected to each other instantaneously thru the internet. Neither act is justifiable, and no, this has nothing to do with equating Pele as a player and Zidane as a player. I am merely pointing out the UNIQUENESS of the hysterical moral outrage (and the hysterical rush to defend him, which I have been a part of) on a GLOBAL scale and in its attendant intensity – something not seen for any other act of violence by any other athlete in history.

zidaneisking

Good post. Globalization of football is systematically distroying the game. Football is and should always remain only for the purests. The media is taking every little incident and blowing it completely out of proportion. I remember watching the world cup a few years ago and there was no talk of diving and provoking and racism and violence etc. The team who won the cup was the world champion and there was only some constructive debate afterwards. We accepted the game for what it was. When you honestly watch the game and I mean really watch it there is more footbal happening than incident. The media has hyped up controversy in the game so much that that’s all you see. I think if you can’t except the sport with all it’s imperfections than you are not a purist in the strictest sence of the word. Football however imitates life and life has good and bad just like EVERY single team has it’s good and bad and somewhere in between is the beautiful game. If you cannot see the game than all you see is the incident and that’s a terrible way to go through life. So go out have a drink with your friends and imagine that one day it will be your team hoisting the cup and how wonderful a day that will be.

@zidane

couldnt agree more! when we watched the final and saw that incident, it was no big deal to us, and we just accepted the outcome of the match. But the media have been feeding off it and exaggerating it like no tomorrow. That jus made it all suk ups. I hav always had, and always will hav utmost respect for zidane even tho I am an italian fan. Materazzi and Zizou are good ppl, stuff like that jus happens on the field, we hav to let it go and move on.

Good luck to France and Italy in the upcoming Euro cup.

————————POSTED FROM CANADA———————

here the best players in tha world of all times, regardless of position played.
pele’
maradona
george best
garrincha
di stefano
puskas
crujiff
baggio
zidane
do i forget anyone?

Dorio, yes you forgot to not include Zidane

dorio…just a couple of additions…I think you have to recognize some defense so I would add

1. Franco “the Bear” Baresi

2. Paolo “where do you think your going” Maldini

Dorio and Dominick,
my personal opinion is that any periods or decade had best players and so a comparison is not fair. just think about Van Basten, Gullit, Eusebio, Yashin, Platini, Blockin, Fontaine, Kopa, Meazza, Leonidas, Charlton…..and so on juts to name some of them, the list will become really huge. Net the only unquestionable truth is the we have just 2 players out of class Pele’ and Maradona. What they did cut any discussions, they are w/o any doubt over the others and they story will be alive for the next centuries.

“I hav always had, and always will hav utmost respect for zidane even tho I am an italian fan. Materazzi and Zizou are good ppl, stuff like that jus happens on the field, we hav to let it go and move on.
Good luck to France and Italy in the upcoming Euro cup.”

Natasha, I very much appreciate reading this from an italian fan. I’ve read so much sniping and hate from italy against Zizou that in knee-jerk fashion I’ve responded in kind in certain threads. Wish there were more level-headed fans like you around.

“my personal opinion is that any periods or decade had best players and so a comparison is not fair. just think about Van Basten, Gullit, Eusebio, Yashin, Platini, Blockin, Fontaine, Kopa, Meazza, Leonidas, Charlton…..and so on juts to name some of them, the list will become really huge. Net the only unquestionable truth is the we have just 2 players out of class Pele’ and Maradona. What they did cut any discussions, they are w/o any doubt over the others and they story will be alive for the next centuries.”

You’re not the only to make this point. I recently read a very good piece on this very issue on Britain’s spiked-online web magazine. (I was going to post the link here but the site’s down right now. I’ll keep trying). They have a regular football columnist. One of his recent columns makes the point that we look upon past glories in football history with a very uncritical eye. He used the example of the 1970 final with Brazil and Italy. That final is universally held as an example of the best final match, ever, because of Brazil’s incredible performance.

Well the columnist went back and re-watched that match after not having seen it for years. And it was sobering for him because he came out of it with this question: where was the marking? Italy did not mark Brazil very much in that final, surprisingly. So Brazil had a great deal of space to work with. He had to re-think his view of that final. His conclusion was that it would be better if we stop putting past players on this unrealistic pedestal and stop comparing today’s players with past heroes because the game has changed so much. These comparisons are very dubious.

For me, it’s enough that zidane is considered by his colleagues, fellow professionals, coaches and managers, and veteran football greats as one of the greatest players in the game’s history, period. He was not always at his best — no player has ever been at his best. There were periods in Juve, Bordeaux and Real Madrid when he was plagued with injury or distracted. But when he was at his physical and mental best, no player of contemporary football captured the pure art of football married with incredible technique in the way that he did. I love other players of his generation but none were as inspiring or as exciting as he was to watch. And I can’t think of any current player playing today who can equal that magic, that elegance and beauty, that he possessed.

Totti will be back at full strenght!
we havent seen the virtuoso because of the obvious injury.
But do you really think than anyone can beat Italy in this coming euro cup?

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nicolaricola | July 11th, 2006 at 4:20 pm

Zanko.

I love how UK fans hate the italians.

Even the brittish commentators can’t stand us.

Why is that?

Could it possibly be that because they feel that premier league is better than serie A they should do better at international competitions.

Well, the reason is simple. English teams are good because of foreign players, not english players.

Their team sucks.
They can’t even get an English coach.
Their players are overrated
They will never win again.

Scoreboard English Hooligan.

Italy 4 stars (and growing)

England 1 measely star (that’s it)

First off I don’t know how you can say ALL UK fans here are hating on Italians. That just sounds plan ignorant. Secondly you say that “foreign” players are what make the EPL a good league and their teams good? Hate to break it to you, but the same can be said about Serie A! Look how many foreign players ply their trade there! Learn to open your eyes! Lastly Eriksson was ONLY the first foreign coach ever for England. They now obviously have a domestic coach again. And with the nucleus of players they have still mainly intact (Gerrard, Lampard, Cole, etc), who’s to say they can’t achieve something in the years to come? So why don’t YOU stop hating their.

TO: zidaneisking,
Ok it looks like that we are overall in the same path. But what I would like to point out, building also on your opinion, is that we can talk about good players as listed but comparison is not fair/correct for the reasons you wrote.
My opinion is that ZZ is for sure a champion (as many other listed) but in the last WC he has been over-rated. At the end of the day he played very well only a couple of matches (Spain and Brasil) and I think that golden ball recognition was given mainly because he is going to leave the show.
Judgment based on pure performance wise shows that there are other players prior to ZZ to get recognition due to level of performance over all the games (e.g. Klose, Cannavaro).
Of course, I respect the fact that ZZ your favourite player, but nothing in comparison to Maradona. I had the luck to watch him in several matches and believe me no one can repeat what this guy did.

But where is Totti in all this?

Dorio
what did you whant to say with your question? can you be specific?

“I respect the fact that ZZ your favourite player, but nothing in comparison to Maradona. I had the luck to watch him in several matches and believe me no one can repeat what this guy did.”

azzuro, Zizou would agree with you. There’s a great section on one of the dvds I have of Zidane talking about Maradona’s abilities. He’s shown trying to copy Maradona’s uncanny ability to shoot the ball into the net at a very close range with a high flying kick (I’m not describing it well). It was something Maradona did all the time with little struggle. Zizou is shown trying to do it and he could do it only once in 7 shots. He stands there saying something like “no other player I know can do this like he could.”

I do know that there have been times when Zizou has made runs across the pitch toward the goal which have been described by observers as “Maradona-like” or “that’s a little Maradona run there.”

I have no investment in arguing that Zidane is equal to Maradona or Pele. It’s not an argument that I’m interested in making or winning. All I’m saying is that Zidane is one of the greatest players in football history and that I think it’s perfectly legitimate to include him in any list of an “ideal team.”

azzurro , i mean, is Totti ,do you think, now that zidane has retired, maybe among the 5 best active players?

And who are the other four?
ps. Materazzi is not one of them!

Dorio:
As of now I should base my choice either on what I saw in the last WC or tacking in account last 5 years performance. I think that it is right the second option so my list is (not in order of importance):
1. Buffon (4 times best goal keeper out of past 5 years)
2. Ronaldinho
3. Henry
and for me golden ball for 2006 should come from this 3 players.

Frankly speaking I do not see others really out of class players that really can make the difference during a game. Of course many others can be listed but at least for me they are just above the average and in this case the list can become longer.
(Czech, Gerrard, Messi, Rooney, C.Ronaldo, Drogba, Beckamp, Ronaldo, Adriano, Cannavaro, Thuram, Nedved, Kaka’, Ballack, Totti an so an so)I’m sure you have other dozens of name I forgot to list.

zidaneisking,

S’il vous plaît ne pas défendre ZZ plus comme vous nous embarassiez des Gens français. J’ai lu certaines de vos écritures et vous devez avoir honte de vous.

C’est assez mauvais que Zidane a fait mais vous continuez à faiez avez d’importance pire avec vos commentaires enfantins.

The whole point here is that football is a team game and no one (yes, no one) made his team stronger by his presence on the pitch than Zidane. The best player is the man who has the ability to make a good team brilliant. Zidane has proven this ability many times.
You can make lists of the best players of all time all you like, and to place them all on one team is a wonderful fantasy. But take Zidane, stick him on a team with your second best team and his team will beat your first line. That is what the best player can do.

Rob, are you rally Zidane’s mother? tell us the truth.

Hi all ….below is a link a site with a petition to show your support for Materazzi and disdain for Zizou and his brutal act of violence.

People from all countries are signing it….please sign and give your voice of support that violence is not acceptable.

http://www.difendiamomaterazzi.it/index.php

Merci

leonardo

great site leonardo. lots of interesting articles and good isight.

This is how most of the world will remember Zizou

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iND2A9tUZbo

Beautiful Tribute.

leonardo,

thanks for the link and the information. great site i signed the petition and ordered one of the t-shirts as well.

down with violence…down with cowards.

zidane the man,

I admit it, that tribute video was beautiful and well put together.

I think you guys should lay off ZZ he’s paid his price

1. He disgraced himself in front of the whole world.

2. He let down his team and country.

3. He put a huge dent in his legacy.

4. He has to live with winning a golden ball he knows he doesn’t deserve.

5. He is the butt of countless jokes

6. He will eventually realize that his apology was shamefull…blaming the provacteur instead of the man in mirror and thus be forced to say sorry to Mat.

and on and on it goes….so please leave the poor man alone.

Football….I disagree with you. I don’t think ZZ has received enough abuse or mocking to date.

At least until the next world cup we should keep up a high level of intensity on this issue. Then gradually (but never ending) keep on reminding him and the world of his cowardly attack. Then and only then can we begin top stop the violence on and off the pitch.

So who are you all – that want to remind Zidane of his faults…?

Reincarnations of Christ…?

And, will reminding Zizou, STOP DEROSSI FROM BREAKING NOSES…?

If zidane isn’t great no one is… And all italy is a wasteland, its football officials match-fixers and its clubs cheat houses.

Don’t be ridiculous Zidane bashers. Do you all mean to say that blood doesn’t boil in your veins at all…? Ever…?

And reducing a lifetime of great football to just some moments of rash behaviour isn’t good judgement, is it…?

simon simon simon….what a pathetic comparison of ZZ actions to Derossi’s…shame on you if you don’t know the difference.

Unfortunately I have to agree with the others….Zizou must live with the scar of humiliation and cowardice brought on by his own actions.

He didn’t help himself with his explanations and behaviour after the fact either…all he needed to say was sorry with no other excuses.

daniel i totally agree with you when you said “I don’t think ZZ has received enough abuse or mocking to date.”

He got off way to light. Stop the violence.

I believe history will be much harsher on Mr. Zidane than anything written about him now.

That has to be the ultimate punishment, to be remembered for such a grotesque act.

Good Video…..this is what football is all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3j08aEPSs

At the end of the day your right….that video is what football is all about. I am getting closer to forgiving you.

Mat

Great Video Zidane.

@ henri…

Who said anything about comparing de rossi to Zizou…

Would i ever compare the blaze of the sun to the light from a firefly…?

To everyone out there…

Stop it..

No one who has seen Zidane and is in his right mind will ever forget his splendid football.

As for saying history will remember Zidane for his head butt and nothing else….

So sorry folks… Its not just Zidane haters that write the history books of football.

Zidane is a great footballer. And that’s how history ought to remember him as.

Simon …wake up and smell the history books.

Watch the videos posted….repant for your previous posts and rejoice in glory of Italian Football Domination.

Visit Italy and let the warm glow of the world cup glory heal your broken heart and mend your broken soul.

Also while your at it sign the petition denouncing Fifa’s suspension of Mat and demanding the return of the golden ball from ZZ.

Peace

Good Post Henri. Simon take his advice, I already signed the petition and hope to go to Italy this year.

Finally some good sensible posts. I have said from the begining that ZZ blew it…..frustrated by his play in the game and his lack of contribution (Italy nullified his contribution to the game) he assaulted Mat.

People can say what they want but in their hearts they know that in the future when his named is mentioned …the cowardly assault will be the first thing they think of.

It may be unfair be it’s the truth.

Nothing is quite further from the truth than saying Zizou will be remembered as a villain. I say again….

No one who has seen Zidane and is in his right mind will ever forget his splendid football.

Of course you have no reason to be in your right minds my dear Romans. You are still euphoric over that win.

To you its 4 years of stardom.

To the world, four years of boredom.

And,

Please be civil and respect others.

@ henri…

I have already signed it, for i believe that it was indeed unfair to punish your “Matrix.” It was not right to let the event and the persona of people involved to overshadow rules and laws.

However i have no intention of visiting Italy.

Are you sre it will be the warm glory of the WC win i will feel..?

Or will it be the stink from all that fixing scandal….?

I hear there are further episodes to be still played out …?

Finally for some good roman theatre….!

Poor poor simon…..not willing to rejoice in the glory of Italian football, fashion, technology…and so on and so on.

Blessed it he who admits his secret desire to have some Italian blood in thier veins.

I hope you will open your eyes and enjoy the beauty of the four stars warming your your soul.

If not…..who cares….CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD BABY….who dares step on the fiels with Italy?

@ henri

If not…..who cares….CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD BABY….who dares step on the fiels with Italy?

Well, all it takes is one match. and, It’s coming soon. Henri, please don’t stop coming back here.

there are things i want to tell ya after september 6…!

Does anyone know an email address that we can forward our comments to ZZ.

Stop the violence in Football.

daniel,

I couldn’t find an email address for him but we could forward our comments to the french football federation at

http://www.fff.fr/

Lets all let them know that violence is unacceptable and demand the return of the golden ball…..don’t make me come over there.

Stop The Violence

@ Simon,
what do you expect from Sept6th match?
A revenge? of what?
Any result would not change the history. ITALY WC’06 and in 2-3 years from now very few people will remember France took part to the final.
And pls do not forget important is to win the war (Euro’08 qualification) not just a battle (match against Italy). I would be more than happy to lose against France but be qualified.

It seems momentum is building for the return of the Golden Ball By ZZ (forceful if necessary I agree henri)

The best and most respected managers in the history of football broke his silence.

This was also the first time the Coach had broken his silence on Zinedine Zidane’s three-match ban for headbutting Marco Materazzi in the Final – and the Inter defender’s two-game suspension for ‘provoking’ the incident.

“I worked with Zidane for five years at Juventus and remembered him as an exceptional man, but it wasn’t right to vote him Player of the World Cup. It was also quite a push to compare his gesture to the alleged provocation. For example, the same approach was not used when punishing Francesco Totti in Euro 2004.”

Thanks for the link henri….we are not alone …..million around the world believe in our cause

Stop the Violence

Great posts henri and daniel.

Lippi’s comments are bang on. Strange why Zizou won’t return the Golden Ball. Some people who played and coached him have a couple of nice things to say about him, yet he continues to embarass himself. I’ll never figure out who’s giving him advice but they should be fired.

Take care all.
Stop the Violence.

without a clue of what to do

I just wanted to apologise to my fellow bloggers on this site for my previous posts. Now that some time has passed I realized I said some hatefull and out and out false things.

I was trying to defend ZZ wrong actions and in so doing got carried away.

So congratulations Italy on a well deserved victory. My apologies to Italians, Italian fans and Materazzi.

Good Luck in 2010 when you tie Brazil for five WC.

Humbly yours,
Zidaneisking

This is the real zidaneisking posting (the one living in the US) and I do not apologize to kasets (who’s the Canadian twit posing as me).

@ zidaneisking,

If it wasn’t you who apologised you should, I just read some of your posts.

Stop The Violence

So who are you all – that want to remind Zidane of his faults…?

Simon we are football lovers who are offended by the punishment given out by Fifa. We are equally offended by ZZ actions the day of the game as well as afterward. It is every fan of the sports duty to mock and ridicule Zidane and Fifa until they make things right.

Join the cause and stop the violence in Football

Paul, Well said. It disturbing more people especially on this blog don’t get it. It’s not that difficult.

Thanks for joining the cause. stop the violence

can you feel it? take it. taste it.

later on we used it so much it got loose and we we opted for an axe to take over the job.

work at sears was eh as usual except for the fact that our elevator was malfunctioning.

jeez sears is going downhill…

Please ease up on the expections you have on me. I play in a second tier league and if anything overachieved in the WC.

I cant take it the pressure ….stop it.

allez i azzurri

Hi all, haven’t posted for awhile but just wanted to keep the pressure on Zidane to return the golden ball…..I encourage all football fans to write fifa and demand it’s return.

Stop the Violence….Restore honour to that trophy again by demanding it’s return.

Take Care all….allez

I heard former golden ball winners
Oliver KAHN, RONALDO, ROMARIO,
Salvatore SCHILLACI, Diego MARADONA and Paolo ROSSI have quietly been talking to Fifa and Zidane to have the Golden ball returned.

They feel that even though ZZ didn’t deserve the award they had no problem until he got carded. Apparetly they are all quite adamant that the award not be associated with such a cowardly act of violence.

Stop the violence.

Great news Daniel….hopefully honour will be restored to the GB and zz will return it.

thanks for the info.

I read the same thing daniel and that Maradonna and Ronaldo were leading the charge in discussions with Zidane to return the GB.

Hopefully common sense will prevail.

Stop the Violence.

Relive the beautiful memories…..thanks to youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuQvcitXwY4

LikeZidane.com displays the act of the World Cup of Soccer Headbutt heard around the world by French player Zinedine Zidane on Italian player Macro Materazzi.
The site contains comical and real media, videos, files, games, and more on the event.

Leave ZZ alone…..stop making him the butt of jokes and cartoon characters. He was a pretty good player in his day.

@excuses…Dont ask us to stop he is a big boy and has to accept responsibility for his actions. My opinion hasn’t changed when I posted on aug 6th

“At least until the next world cup we should keep up a high level of intensity on this issue. Then gradually (but never ending) keep on reminding him and the world of his cowardly attack. Then and only then can we begin top stop the violence on and off the pitch.”

daniel I agree with you 100% I personally have a good 25-47 months worth of good taunting for ZZ.

Stop the Violence.

I-)

(N)

I won’t be attending the game v Italy. If we win ….big deal playing an azzurri team trying different player’s. If we loose (which i expect) it will rub more salt in thed wounds.

Return the GB ZZ bad enough you shamed France butg Algeria and Muslims to. Be honourable, unlike some of your apologists.

I just moved to Canada and wanted to say sorry for my ill informed posts. Zidane did embarass himself as well as all football fans.

Kasets I want to send out a particular apology to you, your posts hav been bang on from the `start.

To the Azzurri thanks for showing the world what a complete football team looks like. May god bless you all.

what s the fuss about, all these canadians coming and spitting crap, why don t u go watch an ice hockey game u losers, the zidane incident is over, the guy is one of the all time greatest player, give us a break mates and stop flooding the french site with misinformation. i bet it s the same bunny being all these posts.

@ribery,

first you are a greatly over rated player. second until Zidane returns the Golden Ball its not over.

it looks like it takes canadians to try and restore honour to the trophy, join us.

paul,
way to tell that commie lover “aka” ribery.

no justice no peace…Stop the Violence

Paul,

overrated?? r u insane. he was among the most appealing players at this WC

watch his record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hoNcOa3HkA

Ribery, ignore the canadian loser who keeps posting on this blog. It’s the same guy. He’s an obsessed neurotic italy fan in canada who posts on different blogs here with different names and has a special fixation on hating france, zidane and providing the same italian-victory link on youtube in almost every one of his posts (don’t bother to click on it, it’s overwrought boredom). He goes to the argentina and brazil blogs all the time too to diss them and post the same italian-victory link. He’s got no life.

HUGE victory of 3-1. Just like the world cup final the Italians were completely TIRED!

They lost the 1st match right after their world cup. They TIED 1-1 to LITHUANIA!!!!! WHat a joke.

They lost 3-1 against France!

I just read it is the WORST post world cup record in history!

Everyone knows it was a fluke and that the Italians won with the worst play. France played a lot better and there is a compilation of the best sports magazines and journals in the world that shows that the the overwhelming majority of the articles states that France played better! Can’t argue with that!

I will not make anymore excuses for Italy. They are on their own and I would advise ALL Italian fans to do the same. This team has to change their attitude. Things went their way in the world cup and what this should of done is change this team for the better instead it has made them soft and egocentrical. I have to admit that throughout the world cup I was disgusted with the way Italy conducted themselves half of the time. I do not condone people who like to bash other countries but I feel some of the comments made(except lazaro’s because I f**king hate that guy)have some truth to them. I have no doubt the Italian National team will be bashed thoroughly and relentlessly by Italians and the Italian media for next couple of days and rightfully so. Are we World Champions?? Is this how champions play?? I mean I don’t expect Italy to win but show some pride and put out a genuine effort in every game like France, Germany etc…Italy needs to find players that can score at will not these half-assed cocky wannabe strikers. I am still an Azzuri fan but I am FED UP with this crap. It is unacceptable and extreme measures are required. We need to gain some respect back in the footballing world and start playing like we matter. It’s no wonder everyone wants us to lose, look at us. I’m tired of looking at other teams and wondering why Italy doesn’t play like that. Can you f**king tell me why??? (not you lazaro because I hate you) I just can’t wrap my head around it.

Just for the record I don’t think Italy’s World Cup win was a fluke but I feel they could have been a more convincing champion. France had a great win today but don’t let it get to your heads like Italian fans because this can all change. Some have said that France making it out of the first round was a fluke so I think you should throw stones just yet.

Dan C why shouldn’t the French let it go to their heads? This is the one match Italy should have won, if they didn’t win any other in the euro’s they should have won this one!!! It would have silenced the anti Italian mobs/haters once and for all. Italy played as if they hadn’t slept for a week. The management definately needs to be looked at. It is alright giving younger players a run around but you still need a lot more experience on the pitch. Thank God he played Zambrotti tonight big mistake in the last match leaving him on the bench. Yes yes it is early days but to loose this one was a very big mistake. Italy won the WC yes by beating France and they should have followed it up with a convincing win tonight just to reiterate their position as WC Champs.

France 3 – 1 Italy… I wish that was the WC final score

Apparently Italy can’t win without provoking the superstars in the French team.

Dear Jane,

Italy didn’t beaten France during the WC( it was a draw 1-1, in fact they didn’t beaten France since 1978, a strange match where Platini was forced to score two free kick in a minute.

To all italians supporters:

It’s just a game, Italia could had won with more luck. I respect Italians players even if sometimes they were annoying (Gilardino risked to break his knee just to show the Viera hand touched lightly his face in the run). Don’t blame your pl

To all italians supporters:

It’s just a game, Italia could had won with more luck. I respect Italians players even if sometimes they were annoying (Gilardino risked to break his knee just to show the Viera hand touched lightly his face in the run). Don’t blame your players, they couldn’t win all the matchs.

Dearest Thierry,

Hello what planet are you on, I don’t seem to be able to tune into your wave length, did Italy win the WC or not against France?
As far as I know Italy walked away with the WC.

This therefore means they beat France (as they were playing them in the Finals) maybe on penalties but the BEAT them.

I just don’t understand what you are trying to say.

dear Jane,
hello, my planet looks like yours, and strangely it could be the same. What i wanted to say is that i don’t very surprise by the italians’ defeat, win penalties was a thing, score goal is another thing. In qualification with the three point victory you had to win. In my opinion Italy played a better match last night than during the Final,(as the french), and even than during the WC. I didn’t see a lot of matchs like it during the WC, the physical condition of the players was, in my opinion, the determining factor. For a WC in september.lol.
PS: Are You the same “scotish japanese” jane, mum of two twins? So How do you do? And how do they do? Good holidays for you, i hope?

it is really amazing how french supporters (except Thierry) have not yet digested the lost of WC and continue to argue about Italy, defense, provoking and so on.
I recommend to all to look to the palmares of Italy either as National team or as clubs and think about.
France won the game last nigth (well done France!!) Italy won the WC 2 month ago. I would prefere to lose all the match with France and win the WC. WHAT ABOUT YOU BULLSHEET WRITERS????

Thierry, Yes that is me! but Thierry I am sorry to see you still have not accepted the defeat of France in the WC, you have to move on mate, it doesn’t matter if it is penalties or goals ( infact I think penalties can be a lot more difficult to achieve than goals, what with the pressure etc) ITALY won the world Cup. Please accept it. Last night I agree Italy played the worst I have seen for a long time, they didn’t look fit, they definitely didn’t gel as a team and France took advantage, well done, and won the match. However it is sad that you are still saying they didn’t beat France this is very immature and only warrants irrational comments. Have a good day.

Thierry, Oh by the way I am Scottish, I happen to live in Japan for the time being. My holiday in Thailand was excellent but my holiday in the UK was not so good, unfortunately we had a bereverment in the family so was quite sad. My family are all doing well thank you for asking.

“France had a great win today but don’t let it get to your heads like Italian fans because this can all change. Some have said that France making it out of the first round was a fluke so I think you should throw stones just yet.”

Fair enough. A good lesson for all to learn. But I don’t see many Italians learning this lesson the way they’ve dismissed France these last two months as a pathetic, worthless loser team.

“Italy didn’t beaten France during the WC( it was a draw 1-1, in fact they didn’t beaten France since 1978,”

Exactly. Thierry is simply pointing out something that all football pundits, historians, experts point out whenever they talk about the QUALITY of a win during a football match. Thierry’s point does not only apply to France and Italy, it is a commonly made analysis about ANY game won on penalties. In football periodicals and official histories, it is standard to list the score in regular/overtime as the true score of the game, and the penalty score added on in parentheses or with an asterisk.

This is Thierry’s point: Italy has not beaten France in regular/overtime since 1978, whereas France has handily beaten Italy several times in regular time or overtime, no penalties. The final in Germany was the first time in many years (I forget how many) in which Italy beat France, period. But still the pattern continued: yes, Italy beat France in 2006 – but only on penalties. Italy continues to be unable to beat France in regular time or overtime with goals.

The notion that penalties are more difficult than scoring goals is absurd. It’s entirely true that penalties are underestimated. After all, football gods like Maradona, Platini, Maldini and Beckenbauer (and I think Pele) missed one or two penalties in their careers. But it is not true that goals are easier than penalties. This is especially true when playing against the toughest most defensive wall in the footballing world that is Italy. Running across the pitch for 90+ minutes–and more in overtime–creating plays, fighting off tackles, watching for one small crack in a defensive wall is the core of the game, and it’s certainly a more difficult job than taking penalties. No player or coach on the planet will tell you scoring goals (esp. against Italy) is easier than taking penalties.

“it is really amazing how french supporters (except Thierry) have not yet digested the lost of WC and continue to argue about Italy, defense, provoking and so on.”

Oh really? Well it was italian players who this week were shooting their mouth off all over the press bringing up all the rancor up after weeks of quiet. They insulted the French, claimed FIFA is anti-Italy and (per usual) made themselves out to be victims.

Gattuso the blowhard hypocrite who constantly complains to referees in so many of his club matches whines about the French and even Maldini (a player I like very much) got into the act – again, attacking FIFA for having an anti-Italy bias. Really, these children need to grow up.

I find it amazing that the side that WON keeps complaining and whining and whining ad infinitum 3 months after their victory.

Dear Lazaro, your answer is the confirmation to what I said in my previous message.
The fact that FIFA and Blatter in particular is against Italy is a well known fact.
-Blatter did not partecipate to the ceremony to reward Italy team during the last WC. Do you knaow why? maybe he was so upset with the fact Italy won the cup and destroyed the final of his well design dream (France winners, Zidane golden ball, good advertising for his man -Platini- as successor of Jhoansson as chairmain odf UEFA)
-Baltter and FIFA for the first time treated Materazzi at the same level of ZZ (that’s really amazing).

-Blatter is in any occasion spitting poison against italian soccer. BUT

No one is talking or talked about 1. what happened in Germany just few months ago (referees seeling matches to the best offer) maybe because Beckenbauer is a good friend of Blatter (isn’t?)

2. France as well had a big scandal in the recent past with Olimpic Marseille but I did not see any comment from our friend Bllater (maybe because is a big fiend of monsieur Platini isn’t?)

3. What about Portugal where the 2nd division league did not start (someone heard comment from Blatter?)

4. Should we talk about on-going Turkye scandal?

5. Is it normal for you what is happening in Premiership where rich russian people are putting the hands on different teams moving managers and players from one team to another? I did not see any comment from our friend Blatter.

Net, the key outcomes of what I’m saying is that Italy from the time of Artemio Franchi (year 70th) is not represented well in the room of power of soccer. Italy does not have any political weight, otherwise how we can explain all the above and what Moreno did during Italy Korea WC’02?

Your comment about Italy did not beat France in the final of WC is a personal interpretation. I assume that you knows the base rules of soccer and final penalties are part of the game and resulst of shout out decide the winner and the loser. AND We know very well otherwise do we have to say that France did not beat Italy during the WC’98 RIDICOULUS!!!

Italians insulted France and french players??? ridicoulus as well, which newspaper do you read my friend THE SUN or BILD ZEITUNG? which TV do you watch? I can assure you that none of italian players said something wrong and worst against France and French players. The only bad comments were against FIFA and Blatter coming mainly from players that are not playing anymore in the National team (Maldini) or old player (Tardelli).

Last, YES you won the battle (congratulation for this) but not yet the war. Looking forward to see you in Rome Sept8,’07.Life is a circle.

azzuro, you’re confused.

I’m not going to go into the whole FIFA-hates-Italy nonsense. I just think you’re using selective evidence.

And frankly, yes, I think Materazzi deserves all the condemnation and sanction he can get, so I have no problem with his punishment. The guy’s a lowlife thug. Zidane says something so incredibly mild to him and he FREAKS OUT and repeatedly hurls personal obscenities at him during the final of a world cup. He’s so sensitive that no one can say anything to him without him shouting obscene personal insults over and over again??? Never mind his long history of brutality on the pitch.

As to your point about a supposed double standard re corruption. Of course corruption is rife in football – and I can’t stand the entire Abramovich/Chelsea thing going on in the EPL. I despise that whole situation. And I’m well aware of the Marseille match-fixing scandal (Zidane was going to choose that club to play for earlier in his career but later said “I saw they were not being straight with me so I chose Bordeaux.”) I’m originally from Spain, and I’m well aware of the corruption in that league as well. Eastern Europe is a mess, and let’s not even get into South America.

But there’s something you don’t get. Immediately after the revelations of the match-fixing in Marseille (and 2 other lower division clubs), the French FA instituted very stringent rules about club financing. French club accounts are now routinely and incessantly looked over – French clubs are not allowed to operate with massive debts hanging over their heads the way Chelsea does over in England. There was a whole new regimen that the French FA instituted that got a lot of French clubs pissed off because they viewed them as burdensome. In other words, you judge these things by how quickly and how stringently these problems are confronted. The Italian league (nor the Spanish) did not meet this test of quick, effective action. This corruption situation is a very longstanding one that the Italian FA never acted on until independent investigators tapped the Juventus phones.

The situation in Italy is also distinct in that it is led by one powerful man with strong links to the national gov’t. Moggi’s power and his entire network was extensive and also greatly influenced other clubs, their make-up and character, their progress during the various championship seasons. Referees were threatened and kidnapped. The corruption examples you mention are real but they are not as centralized and as institutional as in Italy. The Russian mafia guys in England simply have not yet reached the power and influence Moggi’s network did in Italy, and they do not have the connections to the national gov’t that Moggi’s network does in Italy. It would be impossible for Abramovich to have the kind of power in England that Moggi has in Italy.

I know you won’t agree with this but the Italian football corruption scandal stands apart because of its incredibly widespread reach, its centralized institutional character in one powerful network with strong gov’t connections. It’s ITALIAN journalists who say this, not just me. And I greatly respect the Italian investigators and prosecutors who went after Moggi, they’re heroes in my book.

You also completely misunderstood my comment on winning the final. This is what I said: “The final in Germany was the first time in many years (I forget how many) in which Italy beat France, period.” I cannot make that any clearer. I did NOT say that Italy did not beat France. I SAID that Italy has continued its pattern of being unable to beat France in regular or overtime by scoring goals. Can’t you understand the difference?

And I guess you didn’t hear about Gattuso’s comments against France this week, did you? Do your own research on that. I never said Italy’s players insulted France’s players. I said some of them insulted France this week – you don’t seem to be able to read my comments very carefully, do you?

“YES you won the battle (congratulation for this) but not yet the war”

You don’t have to tell me this, I’m the one who said over on another blog that this was just one game and that a lot can happen before 2008. Things change very quickly in this sport. I’m not gloating at all about yesterday’s game. I’m still hurting from Spain’s defeat to Northern Ireland.

Dear Jane,

Hum…All my condolences.
“very immature and only warrants irrationnal comments”: lol
Hey Jane what happened to u ? Is the same Jane who wanted to bring peace and love for her children in a world of bloody supporters?
In order to put your mind at ease, despite of my characteristic and great immaturity, i hope i will accept one day this terrible defeat,by the help of god and all the saints. Or may be because like a lot of Frenchs and italians, i hadn’t would made a bet, before the WC, so it was a good surprise for me to see these two teams at this level of competition.
So would you allow me to excuse the only warrants and irrationnal comments which will follow.
1) Only the victory is beautiful: i don’t think so. One of my favourite game, the Seville demi finale WC France RFA was a defeat.
2) Only the victory of the team you cheer is good. Desagree with that. Imagine your team win all the match without any difficulty and would be eternally victorious: no suspense: it would smell like a perfume of dead. The interest of anything arise from the uncertaintly and the fragility.
3) No matter the way, only the result is gratifying. Beyond me, pretty ridiculous. Two guys ran a marathon all around the earth, they come in the same second. One guy win the toast: he’s the only great champ?
4)If a victory penalties shots after a poor draw and an epic victory by 3-2 are the same victory. So imagine Two teams which results always draw. They just decide between each others by penalties. So inexplicably, one day they were great the other they were craps. In fact it would curiously seem like the reactions of some people or some medias. In my opinion, which is spoilt by a lot of immaturity and lunacy, a foolish french esthetic look at the last night match, Italy didn’t had a bad play, what have you said if the first goal was refused (offside), Henry didn’t score with the help of Cannavaro, and if a penalty was blown for Italy. 2-1 for Italy, their better match for a long, and these frenchs what a band of crap!! For me Italy played well, but France played better, and was luckier.
Good morning.
With all my best.

fuuuuuccccckkkkk u

just found it……..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3j08aEPSs

Yes Thierry, I want peace and love not only for my children but for everyone. So you making comments like Italy didn’t beat France (because it was penalties etc) brings out hatred in others, especially those who support Italy. Yes both teams played the match, some players played better than others, but in the end, and it doesn’t matter how it happened, Italy won and beat France. Yes both teams can take a lot of pride in themselves they both made it to the finals but there has to be one winner and that was Italy. Both teams had fair opportunity to score and win on penalties and however sad it might be France did not make the best of the opportunity and Italy did. So please be kind to yourself and accept the defeat graciously. As I said making the comments you have regarding Italy not beating France (irrational) only makes matters worse and you end up with people verbally abusing you and degrading you and France, which causes hatred, so my advice Thierry is accept it and move on in love and peace. Have a good weekend.

Dear Jane,

“brings out hatred in others”
“be kind to yourself”
Well, i know how bad is my english but could you tell me what of my worlds or expressions had made you thought i had hatred for anybody?
“irrational” Well Buffon, himself, before the last match, remind italian press of the fact that Italy didn’t beaten France in finale, that it was a draw and thought it will not be easy to defeat France. Perhaps i have expressed myself badly. It was the expression of a philosophical position about what we call victory not a factual position. Like i said I have no nightmares about italian victory. I presume there could be a cultural difference between britishs and frenchs”it doesn’t matter how it happened”. of course it does matter. The difference between victory or defeat, love or hatred, democracy or tyranny, is nothing else ,for me, than a question of matter.
“…people verbally abusing you and France” Unfortunatly i think hatred didn’t need the expression my opinion, or of any victory or defeat of any team to exist, that what Lacan had could called an “expression of the “Big Other”(Le Grand Autre). Well to you and for all(especially italians)
Have a good week end.

Final verdict: France 3, Italy 1

Italian players are nothing but a bunch of losers. On July 9th they won shame and disgrace. On 9/7 they lost to a far superior team.

Kruman is still upset – boo, hoo, hoo, Kruman.

Just a reminder that the Italian players who, according to you, are “nothing but a bunch of losers”, are in fact – wait for it – it’s coming – ready now – here it is – THE WORLD CHAMPIONS.

you are the loser, Kruman, and all those who think like you. And the pus in your brain won’t go away for four years. Have fun.

dear Lazaro are you spanish?? this would explain a lot about your acrimony agains Italy.

Dearest Thierry,
As we say in English “your are splitting hairs” hope you understand.
It doesn’t matter if two people run a marathon, there will always be one person that wins and one person that comes second. The person who comes first is the winner! the second, runner up, same in football. Yes both are heros because they finished the marathon but unfortunately as in marathons and football there is only one Champion. In this case it was Italy.

Irrational = not accepting that Italy beat France.

Hatred = stating that Italy has not beaten France since 1978 makes people very angry, therefore brings out hatred and abuse in others.

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Dear Jane,

Italy didn’t beaten France during the WC( it was a draw 1-1, in fact they didn’t beaten France since 1978, a strange match where Platini was forced to score two free kick in a minute. Unquote.

If you are a real football fan then you will comprehend that the above statement is in fact untrue and childish. I understand your anguish and disappointment at France not winning but please do give true justice where it belongs, Italy beat France congrats to Italy, well done France for making it to the finals. Stay happy and have a good weekend.

Hey Kruman….how’s it going?

Good victory for France.

Unfortunately they don’t give out those shiney gold stars for winning a Euro Qualification game.

Allez Les Blows

That’s OK thuram. The “WORLD CHUMPS” had their pants pulled off.

Hey Kruman…glad your well.

Even though italy didn’t field their world cup your right. unfortunately they had those four golden stars on the underpants as well.

those magnificent bastards.

allez les blows

Since Italy won the WC you’ve been in a very depressive and angry mood, Kruman. Channel all those negative emotions into something positive – cry us a few rivers, Kruman, we’re going through a terrible drought down here in Australia.

Lazaro-

As you are one who writes with intelligence and passion, those not too accustomed to such on a soccer board would find that threatening, and that is why they react so negatively to your posts.

I have read quite a few of your previous posts and find them extremely concise and accurate, words spoken from a TRUE football fan and not some fly by night “oh Italy won! they are so great….where’s Italy again, Mom?”

Both France and Italy played brilliant on the 6th September, a riveting performance by both sides. Finally the better team won, and deservedly so. Four yellow cards to Italy (one for diving…shocking!) and ONE to France? Ha….revenge might be sweet but the bitterness still lingers.

As a European, Italy winning the WC is proof positive that the ONLY sport we grow up with and love has officially been tainted by greed and manipulation. What Italy calls a “defensive” style of play boils down to nothing but thuggery and intimidation.

I didn’t say death threats, did I? Sheesh.

Being proud of antagonizing the best soccer player of the last ten years (at the least) should bring shame to Italy fans the WORLD over. We won’t remember MatterNazi a year from now; we shall, however keep Zidane in our hearts.

Oh, and to poster Thuram? Change your name, as your obvious stupidity need not be linked with such a CLASS ACT.

You are a perfect example of a french fan…..shameful, just shameful post. Lies, stereotyes and worst (best for me) thinking winning a qulaification game against World Champions is revenge. Classic.

How many pipes would you suck for France to have half the international successs of Italy?

Now apologise to everyone.

PS …My freanch stereotyping is accurate.

I’d reply to your post, but I have a certain disdain for those that……

CAN’T SPELL.

Massimo,
Relax, it’s only a game. Learn to take a little criticism and slight jabs.

It seems your underpants were also blown off in the 3-1 route of the world CHUMPS.

Kruman

“I have read quite a few of your previous posts and find them extremely concise and accurate, words spoken from a TRUE football fan and not some fly by night “oh Italy won! they are so great….where’s Italy again, Mom?”

noelle, I notice you’re from mexico, a true footballing nation (one of the few good games in the tournament was the one between Mex & Argentina). Most of the italy fans here don’t know crap about the sport – they’re just on this blog because they’re fly-by-night vapid superficial fans whose only interest is their wonderful italianness. They’re incapable of watching other teams, other competitions, they don’t even know anything about italy’s own domestic club games, nor its history in both international and national competitions. They don’t even know the significance of the great italian footballer who just died, Giacinto Faschetti – they just have some vapid understanding that “oh he was a great italian footballer, must be good, I’m italian, I’ll cheer for him so some of the glory will rub off on me.” They have no idea why true fans of attacking football admired and mourn Faschetti because of how he challenged the deadly dull and uninspiring catenaccio italian style institutionalized by Herrera. The guy masquerading as “thuram” is a know-nothing twit from a non-footballing nation and says nothing of any intelligence about the sport.

Actually, noelle, I don’t think italy played brilliantly on 9/6, tho I don’t think they played as badly as everyone else claims. France did play exceptional football on 9/6, some of the best open, positive, attacking football I’ve seen lately. A wonderful breath of fresh air from the deadly dull and cautious world cup that just finished in Germany – the 2nd lowest goal-scoring world cup in history where no great strikers came out as the tournament’s revelation. It’s only right that a goalkeeper and a defender were considered the best players, and that the one scene we’ll remember from this pathetic tournament is the best European player of the past 50 years smacking down a forgettable mediocre anti-footballer.

Italy had one good game(and good is all it was)and that was against germany where both teams entertained to be fair but other than that they were utterly boring.the team that really deserved it was A rgentina but then the best team in any sport often doesn’t win,however they are the real winners in a true football sence cause they played the game like nobody else did.so their great football will be the lasting memory for me amd millions of others like this for example:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KnOGx7DL-CQ

Dear Lazaro,

you like to show a lot of football culture…but I think you need to study more.

The name was Giacinto Facchetti, not Faschetti. He was one of the first defender attacking and scoring many goals. Helenio Herrera suggested him to attack and this was part of the strategy of the Great Inter (La Grande Inter). Helenio Herrera didn’t institutionalize any “Catenaccio”, the true creator of this tactic was Nereo Rocca, a great ancient trainer. Then, you speak about “catenaccio”, without knowing exactly what is and why developed. Football is not so simple as you Lazaro think.
Italy (my country) won this world cup simply because was the most organized team, that’s our tradition. Italy won because football in Italy is a true popular sport, involving large parte of population, Italy won because we have passion for this sport, everybody and not just an “elite”.
Like Brasil, or Argentina…These countries will always have great players, other countries are only meteors…

Dear Tamas,

Well done you know Goggle. Italy didn’t won because it was the true country where football is a true popular sport, or explain me exactly if you think it is an universal truth or just yours. Italy “won” because Trezeguet lost a pk. Argentina and Brazil are meteors, unlike Italy is eternal. Well explain me why Italy didn’t score three goals against France since 1958, why Italy didn’t beaten France since 1978, why italians fans seem to be frustrated despite of Italy won the WC trophy two month ago. You will probably invoke the four tittles. Two of them were seriously spoilt by facism and Mussolini. You are proud of your team and of “your nation” ,no problem with that even if you seem to live in France. “The superiority” of a nation against the others lead to nationalism.Your country is a good football nation you have no reason to be frustrated. And i think Lazaro know football just as well we seem to know it.
Forza Italia if it could make you happy!!(this team will need help)
Yours sincerely.

Lazaro, I happen to live in Mexico at the moment, with a both French and American background. I was raised in Germany, to make matters more complex, and yes, the Mexicans really do love football. In fact some kids down my street sport Zidane jerseys.

I found the game on the sixth of September a lot more entertaining than the WC Final. OF COURSE I’m a France fan (or else i wouldn’t post on this blog), but at least the Italians made an attempt. the last time I saw them play well was against Germany, and even THEN BOTH sides played a good game.

ALLEZ LES BLEUS!! Awesome to score THREE goals DURING the game, and no lottery ass penalty kicks.

FRANCE 2008

What do you think about this?
http://www.soccerblog.com/2006/09/football_consortiums_carlos_te.htm#comments

Dear Thierry,

Some observation:

1)Why do you judge without knowing ? I don’ t need Google, I am 37 and love and follow football since I was 6. Facchetti was still playing when I was a child, Nereo Rocco died in 1979. I played football up to 17, and so many friends. I say that football in Italy is a true popular sport, and there is no arrogance for this. I know very well my country where I spent my first 34 years of life. This doesn’t conduce to any superiority. We are speaking about football.

2) Why you let me tell things I never told ? Argentina and Brasil are great football country. This was the sense. Other countries are metors. France too ? I don’t know. I saw two generations of great French players. The generation of Platini, Giresse, Tigana and the generation of Zidane, Thuram. But I saw also France not participating to world cups in Italy and US. These are facts.

3)You speak about our frustration. Sorry, but we smile, we are happy now with the victory. We were happy when losers. You look much more frustrated if you arrive to judge the victory of Italy 70 years ago. And obviously Mussolini. And obviously you read documents that prove your aims. Sorry, this is only sh**.

4)I read also that you defend the technical competence of Lazaro. Compliments, you are very correct. But, why didn’t you tell the same thing to him when he judged the competence of Italian bloggers ?

5)Yes, I live in France, and love this country. I found here also something that’s part of the Italian way to football. Figurine Panini are little sticks that entire generations of children collected with the images of all players. Now, I discovered they are sold here too. Fantastic.

Interesting posts guy’s, well thought out and backed up. I know it’s viewed as an old cliche but I do believe pictures / video’s are worth a thousand words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw3j08aEPSs

you tell me……later.

Dear Tamas,

You were probably right, i judged you too quickly. So i hope you will accept my apologizes. In this blog, France and Frenchs were been plagued by frustrated people who have seen one may be two matchs of football in their life, since the begun of the WC. So we could have sometimes too much quickly reactions.
2) and what about Kopa, Fontaine,…1958? They will be eliminated by the Brazil of Pelée because there is no substition and they have injuries.
3)To the italians ‘frustration, on this blog, on the italian blog and all around me(italians all around me, my job, my house, my friends, my family) i don’t see many happy of them. They cries about Fifa, about Blatter, about the world which (they think) don’t recognize them, about frenchs who are sore loosers unlike they are always good winners and good loosers. Well of course we are sore loosers, the respect would had to respect the last match of ZZ and don’t provoke him(i think italian team could win without provokations), to recognize the pk is a lotery( where France was by the past the lukiest) and to respect their opponents. A great team respect and will be respected by their opponents.
Hum well to be continued…(Lyon Real) I salute you Tamas.

Lyon is magic !!!

There is no question that Italy, Brazil, Argentina are great footballing nations. Until the mid-90s, I never rooted for any European national team except my own homeland (Spain) – and even then I rooted for them halfheartedly because I knew on a national level Spain never cuts it. Spain are the best in the domestic leagues but on the national level, we just crap out. So I always rooted for South American or African football, never any European power (and certainly never Italy, which has always bored me to tears on the national level – the club level is different).

However, as every observer and historian of the sport knows, the mid-90s saw the rise of French football – the end of the century saw one of the most entertaining, dynamic and exciting teams in Europe – and they were superior to all other European powers. They were the French, this is unquestioned by anyone who truly knows the history of the sport. It’s why I became a convert. Over the years, football struggled in France to gain the kind of acceptance it always had in Italy or Brazil. France always entertained spectators in international competitions (one of the most entertaining games is the France-Brazil match in 1986). They were always known as “heroic losers” in international championships. They were interesting to watch and provided serious challenges to opponents, but never got far enough. By the 70s, the popularity of the St. Etienne club advanced the popularity of the sport in France and Platini became a great hero.

What happened with football in France is a great lesson for countries like the US, Australia, Canada where people who love the sport struggle not just for acceptance of the sport but also to improve the skill level of the game by its players. In France, longterm planning and dogged determination by the football federation and coaches who loved the game gave rise to a level of skill, professionalism and organization that enabled it to sparkle in international competitions, and also to develop players who were eagerly sought by Europe’s top domestic leagues. Today the top leagues of the world are rife with French players. French football at its best in this period was exciting and a wonderful counterpoint to the deadly dull stuff coming out of Italy and Germany.

Yes, it has not been all victories in this period for France but France is no longer the same as it was pre-1994. The creators of the game, the English, have looked on in envy this past decade toward the French for raising their level of skill, technique and professionalism that England still has not been able to demonstrate since the 60s. Currently of course, French football has a lot of work to do, there are problems in the domestic league as well. But they have a very strong foundation on which to build. I hope they do not go into a serious longterm decline, which so often happens with other successful footballing nations (Brazil, Italy, Germany have all experienced long declines).

As for Italy, Tamas, yes I know of the accomplishments of Italy’s football culture (not least of which is its significance in further developing and strengthening players like Platini and Zidane). But Italian skill and “professionalism” hasn’t garnered you any tropies since 1982. You haven’t beaten France without penalties since 1978 while France has beaten you more than once by scoring open play goals.

I do not count your first two victories since they were corrupted by Mussolini. All the referees in the first world cup were fired when they returned home for succumbing to Mussolini’s pressure. And in this last victory, before the final, you had exactly one credible victory against one world class team: Germany. Beating teams like Ghana, the USA and Ukraine are not very impressive for the kind of stature Italy represents in the football world. And in the final Italy spent 75 minutes of the match running around in its own half protecting its one goal waiting for penalties. That is not world class skill.

I do not claim France was without faults. France’s match against Portugal was an extremely cautious game in which they just protected their one goal. Tho the Portugese were simply incapable of scoring.

Frankly, re-watching the final, I can’t say that either Italy or France were superior to each other in terms of strategy and tactics. France dominated most of the game and kept attacking but Domenech failed to take a risk and change tactics in order to get around Italy’s defence(unlike Italy did against Germany, which is why that game was so memorable). He simply refused to take a risk, and that is why France lost.

我爱齐达内！i love Zidane!

Kruman,

“Kruman | September 11th, 2006 at 8:08 pm

Massimo,
Relax, it’s only a game. Learn to take a little criticism and slight jabs.

It seems your underpants were also blown off in the 3-1 route of the world CHUMPS.

Kruman”

Stop reading too many fairytale books – you’re in dreamland. “It’s only a game” – from you???? There is no one who comes close to you in being so upset that Italy defeated France. Go back and read your posts after the final. I had to wipe away your tears from my monitor. If it’s only a game, then you must have accepted France’s defeat and accepted that your hero, Zidane did wrong, even if he was provoked.

Dear Thierry,
thanks for your loyal post.

1) Yes I know Just Fontaine and Raymond Kopa. They are part of football mythology.

2) I know many not correct italian supporters. And I know also many french not correct supporters. But regarding italian team I don’t agree with you. They didn’t provoke nobody. What Materazzi did is still very common in football. This Summmer I read an article on “Equipe” confirming that is very normal in french championship too. We live in this world Thierry, and I cannot believe to French player like angels and italian players like devils. And from my point of view this is a compliment for France. Then Italy won, because Trezeguet failed the penalty. Sorry, it’s sad, but these are the rules commonly accepted.

Extra) Compliments to Lyon.

erm actually you cannot refute facts,england is the best league,
1)the richest
2)the best players
3)thge most watched worldwide
4)the best supported,attendance
5)the most exciting
6)the most individual teams to have won the european cup.liverpool 5 manu 2 notts forrest 2 aston villa 2 (and damn well should have been arsenal this year)and would have been much more but for those juventus scumbag supportesrs who put us out of euro in 85.it was they not liverpool who started the trouble,bunch of hooligan italian bastards who killed their own people(still a dea italian is a good italian!)
8)best stadia along with our german friends
9)atmosphere like nowhere else week in week out
10)steve harris of iron maiden(greatest band the world has ever known,eddie is vasco de gama’s mascot!!!)supports WEST HAM!!!!UP THE IRONS!!
http://www.ironmaiden.com

Massimo,
My bad. It was a mistake trying to bring you out of the dark side.

Honestly, I think I touched a sensitive nerve. You know in your heart of hearts that your beloved Materazzi is a chump and a loser. But you refuse to admit the reality. You quarrel with people on this blog only because there is an inner struggle within yourself. You are not at peace.

I hope one day you’ll leave the dark side, that the goodness inside you will triumph over the dark forces.

Peace,
Kruman

Well Steve, only hooligan can tell a such thing that “still a dea italian is a good italian”. The Heysel Stadium disaster remind us of the worst things that Europe is able to produce. I can’t imagine you could really be satisfied with this kind of surrealist and pathetic violence. Hatred led us and will lead us (if i’m afraid, many people “think” like you)to a bloody and ridiculous dead end. I’m afraid of the fact that Italians are exactly as you and me are. We have absolutely no choice of what we are, but with strong will and mind We could choice what we love.

kruman,

you’re bonkers, and that says it all

“not at peace….dark side….goodness inside will triumph…dark forces…choice [sic] what we love”

Where do you get such dribble?

Materazzi and Zidane were wrong. Zidane was worse though. But seriously Italy was without a doubt the best team here, the only team that came close was Germany. And why the hell are people talking about Buffon’s Mussolini t-shirts I doubt this is even half true.

Materazzi and Zidane were wrong. Zidane was worse though. But seriously Italy was without a doubt the best team here, the only team that came close was Germany. And why the hell are people talking about Buffon’s Mussolini t-shirts I doubt this is even half true!

Mister proudtobefrench retard. Italians are really nice guys. If you think that they’re dirty players, you can’t know too much about football. Cannavaro (he kicks ass), Gattusso, Pirlo, and Toni are amazing players, true heroes, and worthy, of the trophy.

Materazzi and Zidane were wrong. Zidane was worse though. But seriously Italy was without a doubt the best team here, the only team that came close was Germany. And why the hell are people talking about Buffon’s Mussolini t-shirts I doubt this is even half true! This is BS

The WC games are screwed up. They should have booth reviews like they do in American football so that even the retard who reffed the US Italy game can make perfect calls.

lazaro you really should retract your posts and apologise to everyone on this blog.

Have you no shame?

regards
john

Jon,

Five posts to less than an idea, you’re a kind of advertising executive, arn’t you ?
Moreover, always talking “without a doubt”, what kind of dialog are you looking for? Happy to see you agree with yourself.
PS: If you search for more informations, look at google, or answer my questions: how many football matches of Zidane, Materazzi,Cannavaro(…) have you seen before the WC?

People on this blog want dissenter’s to adopt their views. What’s more improtant is for people to find inner peace.

Kruman

Kruman i read some of your posts as well and …..you really should retract your posts and apologise to everyone on this blog as well as all Italian football fans.

Have you no shame?

regards
john

kruman,

“People on this blog want dissenter’s to adopt their views. What’s more improtant is for people to find inner peace”.

What are you on about with the above idiotic statement? You are the most moronic blogger on WCB. You waffle on and on about peace, love and all that crap on a football blog site. Why don’t you dress in a dark suit, white shirt and tie, and go knocking on people’s doors on Sunday with a copy of The Watchtower. You’be the perfect recruitment officer for Jehovah’s Witness. You are the dissenter and it’s YOU who is trying to force us to adopt your distorted view. Get a life.

I gotta question, not related but i just picked an active board so if anybody can help me, MUCH MUCH Appreciation. I’m lookin for the name of this song that plays after thierry henry’s goal vs. brazil. Its a dance song, kind of high energy and the guy singing doesnt sound like he can sing in tune but it goes good. If you turn up your volume loud you can hear it after the goal here from around seconds 25-42:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EM737ikdmjo&search=Brazil%20World%20Cup%202006%20Goal

i’m sorry this is the right link, its louder and its around seconds 25-42 here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=z_gIvtswUL0&mode=related&search=Brazil%20World%20Cup%202006%20Goal

ohhhh……THAT goal.

don’t know the song, though.

As much as i love and RESPECT Zinedine Zidane, the French team is proving time and time again that they can survive without him; however, trust that LES BLEUS learned A LOT from the Master.

Meanwhile, all you naysayers and french haters, keep your eye on the ball: the results will speak for themselves.

…if they haven’t already?….

“PS: If you search for more informations, look at google, or answer my questions: how many football matches of Zidane, Materazzi,Cannavaro(…) have you seen before the WC?”

Thierry, like nearly all the zidane-bashers, jon and john are italy supporters from non-footballing nations and are complete football illiterates – they don’t know crap about the game, zidane or even materazzi – they don’t even know anything about italy’s domestic league let alone any other country’s. They think zidane’s act is somehow particularly unique, that’s how little they watchthe game. They’re just a couple of dime-z-dozen know-nothing johnny-come-latelys from non-footballing nations who watch a few games every 4 years when the wc comes around, chooses their team based solely on thier nationality (not knowing anything substantial about that team), are totally ignorant about and contemptuous toward all other nations and leagues, and have nothing of any value to contribute in any discussion about the sport. They are ignorance personified.

steve, just wanted to add something to your post on England: the domestic league most represented in the last 3 or 4 world cups and euro cups has consistently been England. No other nation has even approached England’s record. In Germany 2006, England’s domestic league had something like 108-110 players at the tournament. Germany’s domestic league comes a distant second with 70 players at the tournament. Italy’s incredibly insular domestic league doesn’t even come close to either one. Amazing record for the EPL.

Apology accepted.

Just get your facts straight before posting next time.

regards
john

Hi all……it’s been awhile. Can someone tell me

1. Has Zidane returned the Golden Ball Yet?

2. Also when is he scheduled to apologise to Materazzi?

Thanks

john and daniel, are still lowlife idiots?

Whats your problem lozaro?

Daniel to ansewer your questions it’s unfortunately no and no.

Regarding your post lozaro about the Italian League being “insular” I sure you meant to say elitist.

What point is it that EPL has most players represented in last 3 -4 7 or 9 WC’s?

If you want to do some homework that means something take the winners in the last….let’s say 5 World Cups and tell me which leagues the majority of the players play in. Thats a statistic that means something.
(I know the ansewer…and you won’t like it)

Please think before you post.

regards
john

sorry daniel i used your name. I copied and pasted daniel by mistake, I was going to direct my ansewer to you first…you know …..@daniel.

regards
john

I thought so, your silence speaks volumes.

Facts are a biatch (for you not me).

regards
john

What relevance does the league the play in have anything to do with the World Cup? Just be quiet, wtf do you know, you just like italy cuz your a guido american.

hey jarhead ask loozaro the relevance he said

“In Germany 2006, England’s domestic league had something like 108-110 players at the tournament. Germany’s domestic league comes a distant second with 70 players at the tournament. Italy’s incredibly insular domestic league doesn’t even come close to either one. Amazing record for the EPL.”

Dont force me to come to the US and Biatch slap you.

Whats with all these negative posts? Why the jelousy over the Italian win?

Grow up, and lets try and win the Euro 08.

We will miss zidane! And will not forget! Don’t want to let it go…..Check it out… http://www.respectzidane.com

France vs. Italy was a Great game for a great rivalry. I expect more to come from these two.

Regarding the PK SHOTS. I heard this argument that if Zidane shoots, he instills some psychological fear in the 5 pk shooters for Italy, and therefore turns the game to France’s favor (they win).

But, seeing as how perfect all 5 Italian PK shots were, Italy obviously could not have been intimidated, even bye a Zidane. France did just an okay job with their shots. Trezeguet missed and the shot by Sagnol was poorly taken. Had Buffon guessed right, the shot was an easy save. Italy’s shooters on the other hand shot perfectly. Barthez guessed right a few times, but was still no match for the precise shooting. Good job by Lippi in getting Italy prepared for PKs.

(maybe no Zidane nerved the French shooters?)

ps. check out this website I just heard about.

http://www.worldcupjewelry.com

My freind emailed them for a special order, and they are making him a France 98 peice.

pss. any update on the Materazzi Zidane public Reunion ?

I agree with you max this is a great rivalry, I wish people would just except it as such and just respect each other.

“I wish people would just except it as such and just respect each other. ”

Hard to respect the most graceless, sorest winners on the planet. They don’t generate much goodwill.

And yes, to repeat (for the football ignoramuses like john and his laughable “biatch slap” posts): ITALY HAS THE MOST INSULAR DOMESTIC LEAGUE IN THE WORLD. Basic stuff for anyone who knows the sport. But I know I’m talking to morons and imbeciles who know nothing about their own precious Italian domestic league, let alone the global sport as a whole.

AND ZIZOU RULES, ALWAYS HAS, ALWAYS WILL.

issues!

“Hard to respect the most graceless, sorest winners on the planet”

I get the feeling you’re a bit of a sucky boy eh. I was disappointed when France lost too but to me that is life. Sometimes we are lucky and sometimes not. I like zizou as well but his act was selfish and without excuses. whatever this guy said you just walk away. I am living now in Quebec but I was born and lived some years in Paris. I like football but I am not analyzing it to death just enjoying. In my life experience I believe in keeping things simple I don’t agree with all these petty bickerings.

“Hard to respect the most graceless, sorest Losers on the planet”

I can do it thankfully due to my Christian upbringing. I also have forgiven you Lazaro for your hatefull uninformed posts, for as the good book states “he knows not what he says” I hear your desperate cry for help and forgiveness my friend.

regards
john

France lost today, that is disappointing. Our unbeaten streak comes to an end.

What a shame France lost today.

World Cup Jewelry http://www.worldcupjewelry.com

zidane is a great football player and and for me you are the best player of the world no the ronaldinho zidane you help very match the france team you cath with france one moundial one euro you are the best player ever in the world zidane

Didn’t Italy already prove to be better?

“Didn’t Italy already prove to be better?”

Actually no, all italy proved was that it could cruise thru a tournament by beating such easy teams as ukraine, ghana, usa, czech republic, have exactly ONE credible match in the entire tournament (against Germany) and win against France only on penalties, a match in which France dominated fro 75 minutes. France has beaten Italy several times in the last 15 years in open play. Italy still can’t beat France without penalties. Italy also proved that it could win by deliberately getting the opposing team’s best penalty taker kicked off the pitch.

But what can you expect from a team that can only win world cups manipulated by dictators (1934 and 1938) and when there’s a scandal back home (1982 & 2006)?

what do you care about it lazaro, you are not even french…get a hobby my friend, youre behavior is borderline obsessive as I have read most of your posts and they are all the same nonsence. broken record.

Haha Lazaro u got told, ur opions are clearly dumb who cares i dont Italy won FORZA AZZURRI , thats more than what you can say, ohh what did France do they headbutted someone to the groud wooo thats got to win you the world cup haha good luck in next world cup god i hope france wins just to shut u up France still needs to win 2 more to get Italys record haha regardless of circumstances the record is still there at least Zidane wont be there next time to headbutt anyone

Can ZZ sink even lower? The ansewer is yes. Here is what he had to say about Materazzi’s new book.

“It’s distressing and depressing that Materazzi may want to take advantage of that event,” said Zidane in an interview to Canal Plus.”

Mat is donating all profits to charity so I encourage everyone to buy the book, including you Zidane.

john,

first, are you the same american canadian, or french flag john who said racist insults and slanders like (quote)”monkeys, n*g*rs, terrorsist, ugly jewishs…” If U ‘re this guy like i think, i have to congulate U to be making progress. But, it will be far more interesting if you said what you really reaproach French men or France for ?

Umm thierry if u had a visual perspective u would notice that the flag is Australian not all of the above that u mentioned. Yes John is progressing, much further than ur narrow minded view of Zidane poor Zizu unfortunately he cant headbutt anyone through a computer screen…theirry ur perceptions are distorted maybe u want to try….. Forza Azzurri Champion del mondo

poor rich zizou

i have never made such ugly racist remarks and am disgusted by anyone who would. I dont know why this blog keeps changing my flag but i am from canada.

if the proceeds are going to charity there is no harm in that.Zidane should appologize and be a man instead of passing judgement and making excuses. Maybe they can both work together and make good from a bad situation.

Dear john,

Ok, sorry, i thought you were him. You’re welcomed. You know there are many people who bashed France and French team. I presume most of the racists of the world are happy to have a good excuse to insult ZZ. Also, apparently there are people who still didn’t understood that their GVT had lied for Irak War. Perhaps some people with identity trouble who want to be more “italian” than the real italian too. Globalisation and capitalism seem to lead many people to this kind of identity crisis with nationalism and racism tendencies. it ’s like for people who say they are proud of the four (1934 1938)titles of Italia we don’t know if they are f*cist or just ignorant. For an european it sounds like if germans say they are proud of olympic games of 1936 in Berlin.