France-Argentina Friendly February 7, 2007

I’m looking forward to France crushing Argentina in this game. While France is busy playing great football other countries (Argentina) are busy talking a good game.

Allez

LUCA, hahahahahahahaah
Very funny, France plays beautiful game???? that is hilarious my friend. You mean Zidan plays the beautiful game. Outside of that, there is no other team in the world that plays a more beautiful game in the world.

Argentina are probably the only team in the world that you would still give a stand up ovation to even after they lose. Because their display of soccer on the pitch is just mouth watering even when they lose 3-0 to brazil

Fair…..are you serious?

“give a stand up ovation to even after they lose.”

Thats something i’m sure your used to, and no doubt will continue doing. There comes a time when you have to actually win something like a game. Also by now Argentina should know how to loose graciously, remember the humiliation after the Germany game. No other country in the World are so full of excuses for their failure.

Has their been a country playing soccer better than France the last 10 or so years? Ofcourse Not. I look forward to see France continue it’s glorious streak of winning and Argentina’s never ending failures and excuses thereof.

Allez

since when did the french start getting cocky?

luca-

how many times has france won the world cup?
how many times has won the european cup?

compare that with ‘losers’ argentina my friend. you have no clue. france just arrived on the world stage in 1998. no-one even knew france bfore then. argentina were kicking ass a long time ago when france was still invading countries like algeria.

may the best team win.

The point is Frances future looks bright whereas Argentina’s future looks bleak….no offense.

Champions of Europe 1984 – Platini ….Champions of Europe 2000- Zidane

World Champions 1998 – Zidane. By the way the European Championship actually means something unlike the Copa America…no offense.

Allez

PS
I don’t like to talk politics and I will not mention or discuss England slapping Argentina over the Falkland Islands.

I’m glad you don’t mention what you just mentioned, Luca.
No offense either…

hey dudes, i think france is a better team, they’ve got depth at each position, that being said so does argentina, it’s gonna be a hell of a game.

laurie: for the comment you left me, here it is.
19 French
3 Brazilians
1 Swiss
1 Norwegian
1 Portugese
1 Algerian

Fred should be back in a few weeks to a month

I dont like Argentina but id rather Argentina win soo wooo Argentina oh and ps France are one to talk about excuses…. lets hope the ball boys wont cause u to lose this time haha and Argentina have excues

HAHA some of you guys are actually funny. Anyone who thinks France is more talented than Argentina has some serious mental problem. You should go get checked. No Offense. how could anyone say that????

Your best player has retired done. no one will argue that zidan was without a doubt the best player of his era. outside of zidan you have really nothing to compare with argentina.

Argentina has
Messi, Crespo, Ayala, Aimar, Riquelme, Cambiasso, Saviola, Cruz, Zanetti, Heinze, Samuel, Aguero, Maxi, Mascherano, lucho, milito, sorin, Demechilis, and about another 100 world class players, who crossed the ocean to go play in your continent and actually outplay you in your own land.

FRANCE has Henry (i love this guy because of his character ie his voice against racism) but is there another well know player that tends to disappear in big moments and big games than Henry??? where was he against villareal in the CL? where was he in the finals in the CL??? where was he in the WC 98, 2002, and ohhhh 2006 where france scored what 5 about 6 goals??? where three of them came from a PK and the rest from free kicks???? where is he at during the big games that arsenal plays against chelsea, man U, liverpool???? where????

I cant even believe we are having this discussion. you guys are right that we do tend to complain, we complain because we arent fighting an opponent that is a team, we are fighting a system. FIFA HATES Argentina(a known and documented fact) every since Maradona and Batistuta fifa has hated argentina because these two players would suck up to fifa.

Please next time you make a silly comment like france is more talented than anyone be sure to list some reasons. otherwise i could say I am the tallest migit in the world, thats how dumb this arguement sounds without any legit reasoning behind it.

I meant to say “these two players wouldnt suck up to fifa”

Ohhh another laughable comment, copa america as good as the euro????

Wow, you idiot the freaking African cup is more of a big deal that the euro. it is mind blowin how silly it is when ignorant people make some random statment like that. the EURO might be bigger but not better, and the reason is because of MONEY.
MONEY MONEY MONEY, you are ruled by money where we africans and south americans are run by our passion and our heart. see if you go to africa you arent going to see a kid playing soccer with kleets, naah you will see him playing with his bare feet and with a ball made out of socks and plastic stuff, playing his heart out because all he wants to do is represent his country and sweat for his country in the WC. if you go to Argentina no one is playing so that they could just make money, they are playing so that one day they will represent their country. but the EURO is bigger because you have sponsors that care a lick about the game they just care about their bank accounts and they run the show

Argentina may be better than France however they’ve got nothing on Italy.
Italy has
Cannavaro(whos worth about 10 players), Buffon, Totti, Zambrotta, Nesta, DelPiero, Pirlo, Gattuso, Perotta, DeRossi, Gilardino, Materazzi, Toni, Inzaghi, Grosso. Try competing with that. Oh and Euro is so much better than Copa America, Lol the copa doesnt even have qualification Classy.

Fair, Lucky for Argentina that they have such blind ignorant loyalty to their team.

I never said France is more talented than anyone. Lets me be clear about this so there is no misunderstanding, France is more talented than Argentina. This is just a well known fact, go position by position and it should be obvious.

How many Argies made the all star team….easy to remember just one forward Crespo and he really shouldn’t be there.

To say the Copa America or African Cup is as Important or Skilled as the Euro is just ….hmmmm….absurd, ridiculous, silly, comical, daft and facetious.

“FIFA HATES Argentina(a known and documented fact)” I wouldn’t mind seeing some of these documents, could you post them, please.

In conclusion France will destroy Argentina in the friendly and you can give your team another ovation for losing, which you are use to, and, good at doing by now. No Offense.

Allez

Fair can you help me spot the Argentine player. Thanks

FIFPro World XI

Keeper – Gianluigi Buffon

Defenders – Fabio Cannavaro, Gianluca Zambrotta, Lilian Thuram, John Terry

Midfielders – Zinedine Zidane, Andrea Pirlo, Kaka

Forwards – Samuel Eto’o, Ronaldinho, Thierry Henry

Allez

Am I in stupid city?

France, please have some good time with Malooda. You want to borrow one of these yes – Messi, Tevez, Riquelme, Aimar, Aguero, Maxi Rodriguez, Gago, Mascherano, Cambiasso, Ayala, Sorin, Higuain, Crespo, Saviola, Burdisso, Heinze, Belluschi, Zanetti, Samuel, Palacio?

Oops! Sorry, aint happening.

maradona your not stupid just writing from your heart and not your head.

you listed a very cute little team, but with all due respect little being the operative word, no offense. we all saw during the WC how well Argentina does against “special olympic teams” “the small fish teams” but cant play with the big boy’s like germany. i’m not even going to mention the humiliation inflicted on argentina by brazil and spain and very soon by FRANCE.

You forgot to point out the stack of Argentines in the FIFPro World XI team. I cant find them.

Anyway I hope you federation can schedule a game against serbia or togo soon so we can see the great football you play.

Allez

Italy is still better than them both… maybe thats y they won the world cup and not France or Argentina

Keep in mind, Argentina also have a player retiring from international soccer, Riquelme, who filled the same role that zidane did.

Really this is going to be a game of who has the new good center midfielder that will replace legends?

Really luca you are an ignoramus of the highest order. Your head is so far up your own backside you really cannot see the light.

Just seeing France perform in their recent competitive games aside from the win over Italy gives the lie to the idea you have one of the most talented teams in the world.

On sheer flair & talent its Brazil & Argentina.Spain has just as much talent than you.

And if you have such great depth why is the cretin Domenech(a truly great coach… ?) come skulking to Argentina to try & snap up Higuain ?

Lyons sucess in the CL is mainly due to the Brazilian contingent there as for your other club sides they’ve been a real rip roaring sucess.

And as to the idiot who posted theres no qualification for the Copa one cannot help the socio military-historical events that have led to this.

Perhaps you should at least allow the Basques to secede first before making such ignorant comments.

FIFA is a joke. Blatter is a joke. The people who pick the XI are a joke & just choose who has made it to the latter stages not actually anything to do with a players abilty.

The sole reason for your recent sucess & that in the early 80s are due to two singularly gifted players Platini & Zidane.

You were extremely lucky to win Euro 2000 after having been outplayed for nearly the whole game. You have 1 world cup we have 2 & 2 runners up spots so I wouldnt shout off your mouths too greatly.

I hope the Albicelestes teach you a footballing lesson much like the Pumas taught the rugby team a lesson in Marseille.

I want to talk about Gonzalo Higuain and France.

I didn’t read news in Argentina. But in France, the Domenech pre-list for the friendly game againt Greece contains Higuain’s name. Domenech is an idiot. France performed well at the WC just thanks to Zidane and people like Thuram. Domenech was useless. But this guy wants a future for his country by keeping steeling players from other countries. I saw a program on French TV few months ago, interviewing Higuain’s father: “The French coach must know that there is someone with huge qualities in Argentina”. I don’t understand this. Higuain has Argentine blood. His father is Argentine. His mother too. What is going on with this boy?

What about Forestieri? I heard that he had turn his mind and now wanted to play for our team.

I’m French. And i will NOT hesitate a second concerning FRA-ARG. VAMOS ARGENTINA!

France bases its game on physical skills. Ugly way of playing.

In 98, Jacquet used French players with cleverness. He didn’t have a poacher. Trezegeut and Henry were very young and experienced at that time.

In 06, Domenech had players with technical skills since 98 (Djorkaeff, Zidane and Blanc were absolutely brilliant!). Zidane, Mexes, Malouda, Micoud, Evra, … were players to be used in an offensive team at last WC. France played like Italy. Always defending. They performed well against Spain and even Brazil because they could counter attack.

France is a country that raise immigrant kids as players in Clairefontaine. They don’t steel them. They use them. And this disturbs me as well. I don’t understand well these guys’ choices: Trezeguet and Higuain (Argentina), Vieira (Senegal, born in Dakar), Makelele, Desailly (adoptive Ghanean) and all the others. Their parents were 100% foreigners. I’m just saying that there is a lack of honor. I would’nt be ashamed to play for my poor country even if it’s Congo or Mali. People like Kanouté (nowadays top scorer in Spain with Milito) or Ben Arfa realized all this recently and changed their mind by playing for their real country.

I don’t like the French mentality in general. In France, 25% are stupid racists and support Zidane at the stadium.

I know that the end of this post will disturb some of you. I apologize. I’m not a patriotic person but i just believe in respect for my country and my DNA.

But that’s not why i’m an Argentina fan. I love the “beautiful game”. The one i believe in. With short passes. Technique and collective. I love you Argentina. I hope the game won’t be influenced by the corruption.

I wish i could go see the game against France even if i live far away from Paris. I hope Basile will play Pablito.

Vamos a ganar.

This is ridiculous. how on earth can one compare france with argentina when it comes to soccer?

Argentina plays the game most beautifully. But its so unfortunate that they are not winning important matches…

luca, it will be helpful if u do a one on one analysis of the argies with french and tell me why France is a better team? Right now, i think the only world class player that France has is Henry after the retirement of zidane. And yeah.. in defense, France is having an edge. But that is also to no avail before our world class strikers like crespo.

Hello everybody,

Like my friend MAXI LOPEZ I am french, and I have been a big football fan for 20 years, and I am 26 years old.
I ‘ll go to see that match wearing the ARGENTINA JERSEY, “à cette occasion MAxi lopez, je serais ravi de faire ta conaissance si tu viens au stade de france”
France can’t be compared to ARGENTINA, ARGENTINA has a much bigger history, the all country is in love with football.
What about France ? those mothe*f**** (I repeat,although I’m French) did NOT support their team in 1998 WOrld CUP. I WAS THE ONLY ONE TO SUPPORT THEM before and at the beginning of the world CUP. And since we finally won in 98, all the french think they are a great football country: WRONG
France is today a good team because of its ECONOMICAL POWER which make foreign young players such as VIEIRA, TREZEGUET (ARGENTINE!) DESAILLY, MAKELELE, and even BOLI (the goal scorer of the only copa europa that a french club has won) play for FRANCE although they should have play fot their born country. The best example is Gonzalo Higuain who may play for France although he is 100% Argentine.
He was born in France only because his father was football player in France (because France needed real players from Argentina country like today)
YOU FRENCH, JUST IMAGINE, it the same situation as if ZIDANE’s son would play for SPAIN ! Would you enjoy it ?

Anyway, ARGENTINA is the best producer of players in the world, with only 35 million people they have twice more great players than France, and 4 times if France would not steal players to poor foreign countries (like HIGUAIN).

I am 100% FRENCH and 0% Argentina

But concerning football, I am 100% ARGENTINA

About the style of play, since it’s DOMENECH (I hate HIM) it is the worst way of play I have ever seen, we only play physical and speed, NO technical play since Zidane’s left.

Concerning ARGies, it’s the most technical team in the world, Brazil is very poor technicaly with “players” (they are any atheltes, but not any players)like Adriano (what a shame this guy) emerson baptista, thei style of play is the same as France: boring
Argentina style of play: entertaining

BAMOS ARGENTINA !

This blog is here to discuss France’s football and cultural superiority, not Argentina, a third world country with a second rate soccer team, No Offense.

Maradonna is gone, there is no more glory and hasn’t been since the 1986 WC. I didn’t think I needed to point this out but some (all) of you need to stop living in the past.

Now I’ll just respond to AURELIUS, I’m pretty sure I’ll cover most of you with this response.

AURELIUS, name calling is something I expect from an Argentine supporter. It’s a shame that your team can’t lose with class. The AFA to date has yet to issue an apology to the world for the brawl started by Argies at the end of the Germany game.

Who cares about Copa America and what the problems are. Was the comment posted by Cris a fact, yes. There may be reasons for it but don’t slam him for stating a fact. The whole world knows outside of the world cup the Euro’s are the second biggest event.

For you to suggest that the in the last ten or so years France hasn’t been playing the best football is self discrediting in itself and requires no further comment from me. Do not put Argentina in the same Class of Brazil and never put France along with Spain the perennial chokers. Actually spain is similar to Argentina, both talking a good game.

As far as player poaching the question should be asked the other way around. Why do players who can play for the Argentine team choose another country? It can’t be said for the money since they make their big bucks playing in Europe for club teams.

Why you would bring up Lyon and other club teams in France is puzzling. What point are you trying to make? Obviously France’s best players are playing in Italy, England and Spain. You have a problem with the FifaPro selection, who would you replace smart guy. Which Argentine is worthy to take the place of any of the players? Your silence is deafening.

Good for you that you love your team but don’t try and sell the nonsense to the rest of us, No offense. I wonder what the excuses we will hear from Argentina when France stomps on them in the friendly scheduled. Here is a couple free ones for you, the wind played a factor, a flu hit the team, blaming the refs is always good and finally when all else fails blame FIFA.

Allez

Fair, I agree with you, the passion for football in south america and Africa is 10 times betters than in France, that’s why the greatest players from the all world come from South America(no need to name) and Africa (Zidane!, Vieira, Eto’o, Desailly etc…)

This year the greatest player was Samuel ETO’O

Luca:
“France champion of europe 2000 – Zidane ? No, trézéguet scored the GOLDEN GOAL ! where does he come from ? A-R-G-E-N-T-I-N-A

1998 Zidane, where does he come from ? Algeria, A-F-R-I-C-A

1984 Platini, where does he come from ? I-T-A-L-I-A

BAMOS ARGENTINA

It’s true all the star players from France come from somewhere other than France. Can you imagine a French team with only French players…KA-BOOM! I like you Argentina fans, you are loyal to your team through the good and bad. To bad I cannot say the same for the french fans who only like their team when their winning, when the chips are down where are they???

There is one element that i hate from the Argentine football. They dive a lot and use time wasting tactics. Just revisit their world cup game against Ivory Coast. You remember Drogba had to turn in to a ball boy because of their silly tactics? That is not beautiful football to me. Argentina was outclased by what they call their style of play. Only time saved them.

Luca,

I won’t respond to your post. You don’t appreciate the traditional way of playing of ARGENTINA. You cannot compare it with Brazil one.

I just wanted to say that after WC, my team brang me more happiness than France or Italy did to their fans. You cannot understand this. We, Argentina fans are more passionate than you because we know football better than you. Period. It’s all about PASSION. Short passes. TECHNIQUE. PLEASURE. These are the words you don’t know about. The French didn’t deserve Platini (Italian) and Zizou (the best player of all time to me, Algerian).

Aurelius knows about football and deserved his name because he’s cultured. You are welcome on our blog. Wam Diego is sometimes rude, but he knows what he says. They know football.

Finally, the only reason Argentina didn’t win a WC since Maradona’s time is because of FIFA and Blatter.

RENE,

What are you talking about? Sorin dive one time so that’s it: Argentina are cheaters?! The problem come from Referees (and that mothe#f##### Blatter who refuses video referring to better manipulate games like in 02 where Italy were stolen and Brazil always helped). Argentina always had bad tactics. Ivory Coast should have been further in the competition. But Blatter was against Africa this time. It won’t be the case in 4 years…
You only can criticize Heinze who plays hard and Sorin for diving only one time in the competition.

Posted from France

Luca you are quite sad trying to portray Argentina as a third world country.

Its only that way because of the misrule of what is comparitively a very young nation . So dont go bragging about your cultural inheritance(personally I dont think you have ever listenend to Couperin or read a word of Racine & so on )or superiority when Germany Russia & Italy can lay an equally great claim to it you conceited cockerel.

The matter at hand is football in terms of skill,flair & style.

The sheer exuberance,almost artistic retention of the ball as a prized object & patient highly technical approach at unravelling opposition defences is a joy to behold & what puts the Albicelestes above others along with their commitment in this ultra defensive era to attacking.

Its no coincidence some of the greatest games at recent World Cups involve Argentina on a consistent basis.

Who cares about the FifaPro awards ? One tournament in which a player makes it to the last stages doesnt make a great player.

It takes a series of seasons to judge a players worth not a month of knock out football. So Riquelme a master artisan with the ball doesnt even get a mention just because we didnt make the semi finals.Does that make him a bad player ? Whereas a water carrier like Ballack a player devoid of skill flair & invention does because Germany manage to scrape through to the semis ?

Riquelme deserved the award on the basis of his control of games ,his dead ball delivery & generalship or Ayala as a defender would have been worthy.

Dont come crawling with your nonsense about football superiority. Which is why you are trying to pinch Higuain. No decent Gallic men to don the shirt anymore ? Or will you continue to harvest your overseas departments for ‘talent’ ?

And aside from Gourcuff which young French stars ie under u21 are playing at a top European team compared to Argentina ?

As for you Rene no other team cheats & dives.They are all of course entirely guiltless.

The French teams antics particularly Henry trying to get a fellow professional in Puyol sent off were far more frequent & appalling culminating in Zizous disgraceful headbutt on Materazzi (who himself is not an angel by any means).

As for passion for sport in France what passion ? The passion for rugby lies in the Basques & Savoy Italians & most French people couldnt care less about the game. They are more interested in cycling. What other team sports do they excel at ? None that I can call to mind now they cant recruit French Canadians to populate the ice hockey team. Basketball ? Field hockey ?

Argentina for its limited population size has a far greater rate of sporting sucess.

Just look at the basketball & field hockey teams & of course the Pumas who have stuffed the French at home THREE TIMES at home & hopefully injuries willing do the same in a couple of weeks time.

> This blog is here to discuss France’s football and cultural superiority, not Argentina, a third world country with a second rate soccer team, No Offense.

All hail France’s superiority over the “third world”. Encore Encore.

AURELIUS you seem to have a problem with facts. I don’t want to dwell on the point but your retort to Argentina being a third world country was to write “Its only that way because of the misrule of what is comparatively a very young nation .”, im glad you agree with me.

Have I listened to Couperin or read a word of Racine, yes and yes. I don’t like Couperin and there are more entertaining and interesting reads than Racine. I actually find most people who feel a need to bring up such things very pretentious and insecure in themselves.

Are you with a straight face or should I say font saying that only South Americans play the game with flair and style? You and your hallucinogenic friends seem to think only Argentina plays beautiful soccer. Again such statements are not worthy of a response. I will let our fellow posters from around the world judge such foolish comments.

I would expect you not to like the choices for the FifaPro awards since it’s counter productive to your argument. You make it sound like all the players chosen are johnny come lately’s who had one good tournament. Please point those players out to me. You also say only those countries who went deep in the tournament are represented. Funny but I thought I saw players from England, Brazil and Samuel Eto’o (Cameroon). Again facts seem to get in the way of your arguments.

Now the argument of “harvesting” our talent. These offers to players are done by all countries and I find more a reflection of the country they turn down, wouldn’t you agree? Your comments are danferously close to some others who claim the French team isn’t French. Zidane is Algerian, Platini is Italian and so on. I wouldn’t go down that street If I were you for a couple of reasons. The first is it smack of racism, how many generations do you have to live in a country to be a true citizen? Are you more let’s say American because your family has been there 100 years than some joe smo who just got his citizenship? So if that’s what you believe quite a few of the Argie players old and new have a Spanish, Italian or French ancestry.

As for young talent your right about Gourcuff and the other obvious one staring you and the world in the face is Ribery.

I don’t believe anyone disagrees with my main point that for the last ten years or so FRANCE Rules football. So again please spare us the talk of how Argentina own the beautiful game and only they have this special passion and ability for football.

If the AFA won’t apologize for the Argentine team’s disgraceful behavior at the WC I would expect their true fans to.

Get ready for the beating France is going to give Argentina. Allez

Isnt it funny to you guys that when the FRENCH are asked to give comparison of Player by players of Argenine players and French players and see who has more talent at their disposal, they start talking about how Argentina is a third world country hahahahaha. very funny luca.

again, please give us a comparison of your players vs ours and lets see who is better??????

Ohhh on your question about why it is that some Argentine players decide to play for other countries. i think the answer is simple. They would have to fight for spots where as, in france you could have two left legs and still be on the team. Trezeguet wouldnt make the Argentina national team to any of our worldcup.

In 02 we had Batistuta and Crespo (no way david was going to start over them) matter of fact crespo came in as a sub that is how deep we are buddy.

06, we had Crespo still at his prime and, Saviola, Tevez & Cruz. so yeah enough said

ohhh another funny funny funny stat

World Cup History: Appearances: 12 | Wins: 23 | Losses: 17 | Draws: 4 | Best Finish: Champions 1998

World Cup History: Appearances: 14 | Wins: 33 | Losses: 19 | Draws: 8 | Best Finish: Champion 1978, 1986

Need we say MORE??????????????????

wamdiego,
“those mothe*f**** (I repeat,although I’m French)” so you must say “As a mothe*f****, i…”.
You can’t point out your group by “those” it ’s more than a grammatical fault.

For all, have a nice day. Argentina and a France have a long love story,cultural and footballistic together. All french fans respect Argentina, and all Argentina fans respect, as i ever seen.

To say which a$$ is far more beautiful than the other, personnaly i don’t care, because i love all the beautiful a$$. I just want to see a beautiful game. I salute all the Argentinians with love and respect. I hope the terrible economical crisis will disapear soon,(and won’t appear in France). I hope this match will make us dream for at least an hour.

LUCA, WE NEED A ONE ON ONE ANALYSIS ON THE ARGENTINE PLAYERS WITH THE FRENCH DESPERATELY… PLEASE GIVE ONE… PLEASE…. HA HA HA…..

Oh my goodness they are just playing in a FRIENDLY geez…. They didnt win the world cup or even had to face each other at the world cup which is the most important tornament in the world yes better that both Euro and Coppa America (even tho Euro is better than Coppa)so all relax….. Forza Italia

Comparison:

Messi (Age 19) VS Ribery (Age 23) Messi wins easily no comment

Aguero (18) VS Benzema (18)
Today Aguero is much more expansive (20-25 Million €), he wins

Saviola (24) Vs Govou (27)
Saviola domintates easily (more goals, younger, played a 10 times better WC, plays better that’s all !)

Tevez (22) Vs Henry (29)
Henry wins but if we look at the age, Tevez is already stronger than Henry at the same age, we’ll see within 10 years but with Tevez’s potential, a draw could be declared.

Cruz (31) Vs Wiltord (32)
Draw, Cruz scores much more but Wiltord is very useful.

Crespo (31) Vs Trézéguet(29)
Draw, same kind of player, same results even if Crespo’s last year is much better than trezeguet’s, moreover trezeguet is argentine.

Diego Milito (27) Vs Saha (28)
Short win by Milito because he’s top scorer in la liga and scored 15 goals last years, Saha never made a season with a lot of goal.

Maxi rodriguez (25) Vs Giuly (30) Maxi wins, Maxi’s been the greatest player of last WC, he leads atletico, scores much more goals and is younger.

Cambiasso (26) Vs Viera (30)
Draw, yeah because Cambiasso is youger and his potential is the same as Viera although Viera is stronger, Cambiasso scores goals and great passing abilities.

Mascherano (22) Vs Makelele (33)
Draw, Mascheranno’s potential is higher than Maké’s, because same Stamina, same defensive skills but Masch is much youger !

Gago (19) Vs Toulalan (23)
Gago wins ! No matter, Gago is wanted by Barça and real madrid but he’s only 19 !

Aimar (26) Vs Anelka (28) Aimar wins, watch Saragoss is 3rd in la liga since he arrived !

Riquleme (28) Vs Who ? Ah ! Zidane (34) but Zidane’s retired ! Zidane would win, but do not forget riquelme.

Veron (32) Vs Micoud (33) Veron wins easily, no comment.

Lucho Gonzalez (25) Vs Malouda (27)
Draw, at the moment, but lucho’s work in porto is paying in the C. L. and now barçà wants him ! Just have a look at his last goal in C.L. !
D’alessandro Vs who ? no opponent !

Ayala (33) Vs Thuram (34)
Draw, no comment

Samuel (27) Vs Gallas (28)
Samuel wins by his potential and amazing skills, even if Gallas is more consistent.

Gabi Milito (25) Vs Boumsong ( ??)
Milito wins, Boumsong is a joke.

Gabi Heinze (28) Vs Mexes (25)
Mexes wins, Domenech should make him a starter in France

Gonzalo Rodriguez (21) Sylvestre (28)
The potential of Gonzalo gives him a win

Javier Zanetti (32) Sagnol (30)
Zanetti wins, no comment

Sorin Vs Abidal
Sorin wins because he can play offense

Burdisso (25) Vs Chimbonda (27)
Burdisso wins, this guy is an important player at Inter, where is chimbonda ?

Abondanzieri Vs Coupet : Coupet wins, no comment

Ustari (19) Vs Landreau (27)
Ustari wins, he ‘s wanted by Barçà and real madrid

Final result :

Argentina : 15 wins, 6 draw
France : 3 wins, 6 draw

OK 15-3 Argentina, what do you want more ?
Ah ! I know ! You want Gonzalo Higuain ! (18 years old)

Obviously your analysis is flawed, and the reason why is simple (like you) and staring you in the face.

Your comparison of player’s talent cannot possibly be correct. I ask you to look at Argentina’s record of Spectacular International Failure v. France Glorious record of triumph. France has a world cup followed by a European championship followed by a second place finish In a World Cup. Argentina record is …….well honestly it’s so poor who cares.

Allez

Luca, your last argument is silly

Argentina dominated from ‘78 to ‘94 the football world:

78 World cup winner, 82 second round world cup in europe
86 World cup winner
90 World cup finalist in europe after they knocked out the host country: italy
91 and 93 : Coppa america (and may be befor I do not know)
94: Eliminated by FIFA (maradona controlled to something useless for football)
Then in 06 the hosts won by PKs and with a referee biased for Germany.

I remind you that euro 2000 has been won because of an argentine: Trézéguet and that you could already have been beaten by Italy in 98 in the PKs

My argument is silly? Why are you going back to 1978, 1986 on so on when the players you are comparing never played then?

Your definition of domination over a 14 year period can only be described as bizarre and I’m sure the Italian’s and Germans would agree with me.

“94: Eliminated by FIFA (maradona controlled to something useless for football)
Then in 06 the hosts won by PKs and with a referee biased for Germany.”

All Argentine fans have made it abundantly clear that when Argentina are slapped out of a competition it’s a conspiracy by FIFA or corrupt refereeing. With beliefs like that why is anyone surprised at the Argentines disgraceful comport after the Germany game.

As I stated before I would recommend that you don’t make the argument that Trézéguet is Argentine. You leave yourself wide open for other people to stake claim your players as being Italian or Spanish or French, many of whom immigrated to Argentina.

Allez

someone please comment on this

FRANCE :World Cup History: Appearances: 12 | Wins: 23 | Losses: 17 | Draws: 4 | Best Finish: Champions 1998

ARGENTINA :World Cup History: Appearances: 14 | Wins: 33 | Losses: 19 | Draws: 8 | Best Finish: Champion 1978, 1986

Need we say MORE??????????????????

No you need not say more.

If that’s the formula you want to use then I can safely assume you acknowledge that Brazil, Italy and Germany are far superior footballing nations than Argentina.

Brazil – Appearances: 18 | Wins: 62 | Losses: 14 | Draws: 11 | Best Finish: Champions ‘58, ‘62, ‘70, ‘94, ‘02
Italy – Appearances: 15 | Wins: 39 | Losses: 17 | Draws: 14 | Best Finish: Champions 1934, 1938, 1982 & 2006
Germany – Appearances: 16 | Wins: 55 | Losses: 19 | Draws: 17 | Best Finish: Champions 1954, 1974, 1990
Please post your acknowledgement of the above a.s.a.p. so the Brazilians Italians and Germans can read your acknowledgement of their superiority.

My prediction for the game is unchanged, France to trounce Argentina and Argentina once again humiliated before the world.. My prediction for the NT is unchanged France’s future is bright Argies Bleak. My conclusion of who has had the best team over the last 10 or so years is unchanged, undeniably France. My observation and conclusion that the Copa America won’t buy you a cheap glass of wine in Paris is unchanged (No Offense).

Sorry about your teams brutal performances over the last 20 years or so, but living in denial isn’t going to change the facts.

Allez Allez

Wow, interesting board.
We have Luca, a wise fellow who insists on making something out of nothing, trash talking against Argentina about a miserable match for 3/4 of a million euros, they’ll play with France in February of next year. And we’re on the first week of November 06…
Four more months? Constipated like this?
Mmmm, I’ll pass,
Saludos

See even Luca said it.. Italy greatest in the world

I don’t think I said that Cris, it was Fair who’s logic led to the conclusion that Brazil 1 Italy 2 and Germany 3 ect…

I have a great deal of respect for all three of those countries (Brazil, Italy & Germany) they consistently the top performers on the International Stage.

That being said I still maintain France has been the best team for over 10 years, and their play and style has been unmatched.

Allez

Salut Albo

LUCA again ou are everywhere in your crazy theory, we arent talking about italy brazil or germany, we are talking about France vs Argentina. you claimed France is much more talent and more soccer history than Argentina, and i am simply asking you to explain, if we look at talent WE WIN because you havent even came up with a single analysis of how France is more talented. if you look at history there are only three teams with better records than us they are Italy, Germany and Brazil. I dont see France anywhere near us. so why wont you just accept the fact Argentina is better??? if We play you in France then most likely Argentina wins or it is a draw but if We play you in Argetntina then we win, and we win BIG. I am not saying France sucs or anything,I like the french national team, ZIZU is amazing, but no one outside of France will look at you sane by making a statement like that. you will get laughed at trying to sell that I dea of France having more talented players than Argentina

Who cares fair Italy won the world cup…beat that with ur stupid Argentina comments…actually i dont mind argentina and i do agree that referee was biased and for Germany but really better luck next time and as for france headbutting the ball is probably the better option

Guys, just talk about football.

Third world country sounds like racism. And so on.

Just football, It is a fact that 1-Brazil, 2-Italy, 3-Germany and 4-Argentine are the best 4 teams in the world.

I hope to watch a very nice game because I love football.

I prefer the Argentinian football than the French one. Just because the way they play and the huge quantity of good players that they have. But anyway, France team is amoung the 7 best teams in the world.

England is number 6 and France number 7.

So we are talking about 2 teams that are top teams in the world. I mean, we should expect a very good game.

Does anybody know if there is anywhere in London where I can watch the game?

watching the france-argentina match right now, i guess what france really needs is a guy who can perfectly deliver corners/freekicks inside the penalty box. ribery is good but we need a better guy. too many wasted freekicks/corners. I guess if france can find someone who can take freekicks like zidane did in germany, it will be perfect for the team.

Beatiful goal Saviola!!!

Nice to watch those guys playing. Thanks Argentine for your football.

France 0 – Argentine 1

And, let me tell you, France need more than 1 good player, so far.

and here it is for the world to decide whoz best . beating in your home = 2 times win in neutral venue..argentina have silenced the critics..oh my god i cant find any french fan replying me.may be i can expect people frm nigeria or italy or ghana to contradict my comments!